Staff Kelvin Wright

ramraider78

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Agreed - NSW Cup will be much harder.
Injuries plays a massive role in NSW Cup success.

I would argue he overcame equally or even greater talented side in Eesl, Knights & Roosters.

Lolohea for the most part has been ordinary for the NYC squad. obviously extremely talented player looks like he is carrying to much pounds atm.
Lisone & Kata were super talented but improved heaps this year.

Bar Adam Tuimavave-Gerrard who was great last year too......those names you mention were average in previous years.
Lino improved massively - whilst Maumalo (still raw) barely got selected by Ackland.

I am usually anti-job for the boys - but not 100% that why he got the job.
Was Jones friends with Scurrah??

Also name a better coach suited in the country.
Kelvin Wright is obviously rated highly at the Warriors & NZRL.

Jobs for the boys? Well how does a rugby league school teacher become CEO for Auckland Rugby League.
Seriously how did Wright get up there that quick - he was assistant coach for Otara in the Shaman in 2011 by 2014 he's in the Kiwis lol You have to admit it's been fast tracked.

Pretty strange Blackmore can't even get a look in TBH He has a decent coaching CV.
 

slaughterhouse.sa

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Seriously how did Wright get up there that quick - he was assistant coach for Otara in the Shaman in 2011 by 2014 he's in the Kiwis lol You have to admit it's been fast tracked.

Pretty strange Blackmore can't even get a look in TBH He has a decent coaching CV.
Yeah agreed - obviously Wright has been agressive about it and obviously impressed a lot of people in different places.
To be rated by a number of people - Ackland , NZRL & Warriors. Must be alright.

He was like a player coach from memory - one of those know it all spine players. Like Ennis etc lol

Definately Blackmore is a quality football coach - however dont know him but he might be deemed old school / too grass roots.

Also he probably shouldnt of left the Vulcans gig - he went to England and that got stuffed up.
Hindisght is a good thing though I guess.

Who do you think will get called up to assit Jones and/or wright?
 
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ramraider78

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Hmmmm what coaching experience does he have? Does that mean Kelvin Wright is taking the ISP team???
That's what blew me - seen him around local footy with the kids for years, nice guy, spoke with him a few times, haven't heard any real negatives said about him - but got told that from 2 different people, both higher then me on the food chain lol I know he's coached reps and been around the NYC 20's set up so has a few ideas and a few players who have worked with him said good things. You know Wright was fast tracked to that position, they could do the same with Taplin if what I heard was true.

It wouldn't surprise me if Wright gets the nod cause he's been fast tracked this far HAHA Still amazes a few people I know how quick he got there lol
 

mt.wellington

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Jun 21, 2012
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It wouldn't surprise me if Wright gets the nod cause he's been fast tracked this far HAHA Still amazes a few people I know how quick he got there lol
Yeah Ive been amazed at how quickly he's gone from coaching Otara and Bay Roskill to coaching the NYC and Junior Kiwis. He's basically the NZRLs poster boy for young working coaches. Even went on tour with the Kiwis.

What did he ever achieve at Otara or the Vikings?

To me it looks like the Mt Albert old boys click is still pulling some major strings. Could be wrong...
 
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ramraider78

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Yeah Ive been amazed at how quickly he's gone from coaching Otara and Bay Roskill to coaching the NYC and Junior Kiwis. He's basically the NZRLs poster boy for young working coaches. Even went on tour with the Kiwis.

What did he ever achieve at Otara or the Vikings?

To me it looks like the Mt Albert old boys click is still pulling some major strings. Could be wrong...
Nothing at Vikings or Otara - I still remember when he came to play us as an assistant at Otara, we were shocked then that the city boy had come out south to coach lol You could be right about Mt Albert old boys cause I remember him saying Ackkers told him to hang around when he left and look where's he got to now lol
 
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InsideBall

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Wasn't sure where else to put this, but found it pretty interesting:

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/leagu...cnamara-tipped-to-join-warriors-coaching-team

Meanwhile, the Warriors' under 20s coach this season, Kelvin Wright, has quickly moved on from the club and is helping out the North Harbour rugby union team.

It's believed his split with the Warriors this year was acrimonious.

Some of the players and other figures inside the club questioned his coaching ability, while Wright wasn't helped by the best under 20s players being promoted early to the NSW Cup team.
 

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ramraider78

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I actually think Wright had more disruption last year with players more being called up to the NSWarriors than he did this year - and last year they went deep into the finals while this season they finished in 14th spot.
Most of the whispers I ever heard out of the club from the past 2 seasons was around the 20's and questions raised around his coaching style and rise to the top. The article was correct to an extent IMO
 

mt.wellington

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Started a thread on this guy as I know this isnt the last we have heard on him. He'll be back and might even coach the Kiwis one day. Will go around collecting every post about him now...
 

Stone

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If what you guys are saying is correct (and I have no reason to believe otherwise) then I'm pretty disappointed, but unfortunately not surprised

This kind of internal politics, back your own horse, personal agenda bullshit was absolutely rife back when I was still directly involved in the game

It's essentially the major factor that drove me from the game I love back in the late 90's cos I've always been an upfront straight-shooting type & some of the devious self-serving rubbish I not only saw but was also encouraged to participate in just made me eventually think to myself ... man if I really want to be involved in this kind of back handed self serving bullshit then I'll go get involved in actual politics ... I'm out

I saw the tentacles of this infestation in just about every facet of the game, the players, the parents / supporters, the coaches / managers, my own club, other clubs, rep teams, other provinces right up to the various different governing bodies of the game itself

I was involved in the sport cos I loved playing the actual game, I loved my team mates, I loved my club & I love coaching kids, not for some deluded grandiose sense of my own self-importance

Nowadays I get all those things I mentioned from being heavily involved in Mixed Martial Arts which doesn't really have any of these kinds of stupid politics attached to it, but it still definitely saddens to see that this kind of crap is still happening in my first sporting love ... rugby league

But like I said, I am unfortunately not surprised
 
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Iafetas Kickstand Wang

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I don't think that is entirely fair. He had a team of deadset rookies, I wouldn't be surprised if the team he had was comfortably the youngest the Warriors have ever fielded. The Warriors made a concerted effort of getting their aces into NSW Cup as early as possible.

In the past also we've been quite strategic free in terms of how we've played blokes. Johnny Ackland loved playing for example Toka Likiliki on the wing at 120-130kg simply because at that level players couldn't handle him on the wing. Hows that turned out for Toka's first grade career? It helped dominate NYC comps but really did nothing for either the play or the clubs development process.
 

mt.wellington

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I don't think that is entirely fair. He had a team of deadset rookies, I wouldn't be surprised if the team he had was comfortably the youngest the Warriors have ever fielded. The Warriors made a concerted effort of getting their aces into NSW Cup as early as possible.

In the past also we've been quite strategic free in terms of how we've played blokes. Johnny Ackland loved playing for example Toka Likiliki on the wing at 120-130kg simply because at that level players couldn't handle him on the wing. Hows that turned out for Toka's first grade career? It helped dominate NYC comps but really did nothing for either the play or the clubs development process.
Yeah I dont blame him for missing the finals. Some of those kids were rushed in just after their 17th birthday. You also had players like Nathaniel Roache, Bunty Afoa, Ofahiki Ogden, Marata Niukore, Erin Clark and Ata Hingano who were NYC eligible playing ISP.

I was just surprised at how quickly he had risen up the ranks. Probably the quickest rise I have ever seen or heard about for someone who hasnt played NRL or even made a train on team. Most coaches at least prove themselves in the Fox Memorial before moving up...
 

jonno

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If what you guys are saying is correct (and I have no reason to believe otherwise) then I'm pretty disappointed, but unfortunately not surprised

This kind of internal politics, back your own horse, personal agenda bullshit was absolutely rife back when I was still directly involved in the game

It's essentially the major factor that drove me from the game I love back in the late 90's cos I've always been an upfront straight-shooting type & some of the devious self-serving rubbish I not only saw but was also encouraged to participate in just made me eventually think to myself ... man if I really want to be involved in this kind of back handed self serving bullshit then I'll go get involved in actual politics ... I'm out

I saw the tentacles of this infestation in just about every facet of the game, the players, the parents / supporters, the coaches / managers, my own club, other clubs, rep teams, other provinces right up to the various different governing bodies of the game itself

I was involved in the sport cos I loved playing the actual game, I loved my team mates, I loved my club & I love coaching kids, not for some deluded grandiose sense of my own self-importance

Nowadays I get all those things I mentioned from being heavily involved in Mixed Martial Arts which doesn't really have any of these kinds of stupid politics attached to it, but it still definitely saddens to see that this kind of crap is still happening in my first sporting love ... rugby league

But like I said, I am unfortunately not surprised
For me it comes back to that old saying. "When good people do nothing, the bad people eat all the pudding."

But I totally get where you're coming from. The personal risk is huge and the reward is almost entirely esoteric. And without a critical mass of humans behind you, you're pretty much certain to get pummeled by the puddin eaters.
 

mt.wellington

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Jun 21, 2012
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For me it comes back to that old saying. "When good people do nothing, the bad people eat all the pudding."

But I totally get where you're coming from. The personal risk is huge and the reward is almost entirely esoteric. And without a critical mass of humans behind you, you're pretty much certain to get pummeled by the puddin eaters.
So Kelvin Wright lost his job cause he ate all the pudding? Im not following you???
 

jonno

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So Kelvin Wright lost his job cause he ate all the pudding? Im not following you???
I think Wight lost his job because he was acrimonious at the idea that the pudding wasn't his by right.

Pudding being a metaphor for the spoils of success of course.
 

jonno

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just talk plain english mate.

its easier.
Life isn't supposed to be easy, it's supposed to be awesome.

And the sooner some people remember that it's a team sport, and put their own selfish interests on the back burner, the better.

That's all I'm trying to say.
 

Viking

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Found this from March:

Kelvin Wright keeps Junior Kiwis head coaching job


Incumbent Kelvin Wright has been confirmed for another term as head coach of the Junior Kiwis.

Wright headed off a field of eight applicants and a high-class short list of four to keep the role that he filled in 2015, when he steered the national 20s side to a narrow 22-20 loss to the Junior Kangaroos at the Gold Coast.

He had previously been assistant coach under now-NZRL high performance manager Brent Gemmell and coaches the Junior Warriors in the NRL's National Youth Competition.

Wright has also benefited from filling an analyst role with the Kiwis, under head coach Stephen Kearney.

"Kelvin was well prepared and showed a high degree of planning in his interview," said Gemmell.

"His previous campaign experience and his fulltime involvement with this age group at the Warriors gave him an edge over his rivals for this job."

Wright's term is for 2016, with an option for another year. He will now assist in the process for appointing further Junior Kiwis coaching staff and team management.

The Junior Kiwis are scheduled to face the Junior Kangaroos in their annual fixture at Parramatta's Pirtek Stadium on May 7.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/league/77503538/Kelvin-Wright-keeps-Junior-Kiwis-head-coaching-job

According to the article, he's one of 8 applicants but it looks like the person making the final decision is the same guy who coached him when he captained Mt Albert and who he replaced when Gemmell took over the Vulcans. Jobs for the boys.
 
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