General Jesse Royal

2big2strong_old

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But who would you leave out?

Personally I'd leave out Lillyman because we need another Prop on the bench and I'd start Eastwood and move Matulino to the bench for some impact.

Isn't that crazy though?!? Leaving a current S.O.O player and new recruit out of the squad completely. I just rate all our other players a notch higher than him.
 

Spence_old

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I want to see how Lillyman goes before I judge him. I think he is probably one of the worst SoO selections of the past few seasons, but the fact that he was good enough to be considered is something to think about.
 

2big2strong_old

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He's solid, very solid. But we've already got Luck and Mannering that are just as solid. I do actually like the thought of him stiffening up our defence but would rather Eastwood.
 

Jesbass_old

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But who would you leave out?

Personally I'd leave out Lillyman because we need another Prop on the bench and I'd start Eastwood and move Matulino to the bench for some impact.

Isn't that crazy though?!? Leaving a current S.O.O player and new recruit out of the squad completely. I just rate all our other players a notch higher than him.

At the moment, I'd leave out Tuimavave, because I have to. I possibly would, anyway.

If Lillyman grows an offload, he'll throw another spanner into the works.

It's a great problem for the club to have.
 

Jesbass_old

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But what if we dont sign Eastwood? how would your bench be?

Me?

Assuming:
1 - We don't sign Eastwood.
2 - Lauaki leaves the Warriors.
3 - Tuimavave is injured, Round 1.

I'd have a bench looking something like:
Royal
Packer
Lillyman
Hohaia

With Royal, Packer, Retzlaff, and Tuimavave battling it out for the first two bench spots, Matulino fighting hard for either the third or for a starting spot, and Hohaia basically owning that last spot.
 

Lego_Man_old

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I think we've got to be careful with how we manage Package this year - he's still very young and we dont want to stunt his development by letting him get hammered too much.
 

Iafeta_old

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Some bench for me Jes, except I'd have Matulino on the bench and start with Lillyman. Keep it nice and tight defensively early on to build your platform, and then get Matulino running slightly wider or coming back on the grain between the A-markers, Gorden Tallis like. Hmmm, interesting comparison from me there as I reckon Matulino is a Steve Simpson clone.
 

ToiletDuck_old

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I think we've got to be careful with how we manage Package this year - he's still very young and we dont want to stunt his development by letting him get hammered too much.

Rapira has been a regular since he was 19?
 

Spence_old

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And Mannering? Not sure what his age was when he debuted. But he has played something like 80 consecutive games. 25 odd games a season, and he is 22 now. He would have been around 19.
 

Tajhay_old

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And Mannering? Not sure what his age was when he debuted. But he has played something like 80 consecutive games. 25 odd games a season, and he is 22 now. He would have been around 19.

probably 18. it took him a year before he started doing nicky ;)
 

Fazz_old

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After preparing to play for the New Zealand Warriors' feeder club at the start of the year, prop Jesse Royal has compiled a notable run with the National Rugby League (NRL) club.

Royal, who is in the starting 13 for the away match against South Sydney on Sunday, is be one of only three Warriors to have played every match this season.

Hooker Aaron Heremaia and interchange forward Ben Matulino are the others with 17 appearances heading into the clash at Homebush.

Royal admits that his status as an ever-present in the side isn't something he would have expected a little over four months ago.

"I was supposed to play for the Vulcans and it was only because a few injuries came up that I played the first game," he said.

"Since then, it's just been about working hard. All you can do is train hard and play every game like it's your last."

In a season in which coach Ivan Cleary has had to work around numerous injuries, the Warriors have been hard hit in the front row.

Among those who have spent significant time on the sidelines are Steve Price, Sam Rapira and Jacob Lillyman.

Price's heel problem means he won't play at all in his final NRL year, while Rapira could be back next week.

Lillyman, who returned to action with the Vulcans last weekend, has been included on an expanded bench against Souths.

Royal, 30, made his NRL debut three years ago with Newcastle and made 29 appearances over two seasons before being let go by the Knights.

A Hamilton-born former Army chef, he was working in the Newcastle coal mines when the Warriors relaunched his NRL career.

He played 15 matches for the Warriors last year, when he felt the lack of a proper pre-season showed up in his performances.

"I had a lot of dropped ball and it was a disappointing year, to say the least," he said.

"This year, I feel like I've got the fitness in the bank. I'm a bit more confident in my ability on the field and it's been great."

Five victories a row have lifted the Warriors to fifth on the ladder, while Souths have won just once over the same stretch to drop to ninth.

However, Royal rated the Warriors as underdogs heading across the Tasman, citing as one reason the 26-24 result against the Rabbitohs at Mt Smart Stadium in May.

"We beat them by only two points and that was over here," he said.

"Over there, they'll have the home crowd behind them and everything will be stacked in their favour. We just have to keep our heads down, train hard and come up with a great plan against them."

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Royal was bracing for a tough battle up front against the likes of Kiwi Roy Asotasi, English international Sam Burgess and big David Taylor.

Asotasi was out injured and Taylor on Queensland Origin duty when the sides last met, but Burgess made an impression.

"He's got great footwork and he can offload," Royal said. "He's also big and aggressive and he can put a shot on."

Royal comes off contract at the end of the season and, while his preference would be to stay with the Warriors, he isn't sure what next year will bring.

"I've not really thought about that," he said.

"All I'm concentrating on is playing well for the team and putting my best foot forward."

source: https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/league/3946184/Royal-the-prospective-Vulcan-becomes-regular-Warrior

I think a few of us (myself, for sure) were guilty of forgetting about his minimal pre season prep, doesn't really explain his crap form at the start of this year, but it does explain why he's starting to become a bit more comfortable now. Hopefully he keeps up his form, improves more and earns a new contract as back up for next year.
 

AussieWarriorsFan_old

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I think a few of us (myself, for sure) were guilty of forgetting about his minimal pre season prep, doesn't really explain his crap form at the start of this year, but it does explain why he's starting to become a bit more comfortable now. Hopefully he keeps up his form, improves more and earns a new contract as back up for next year.

That made me laugh. He has been going well lately hasn't he?
 

sebastian_old

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Depending how we go in our search for a new prop Royal has prob earn't himself a one year contract, even if our search goes well, at current form he'd be suitable depth.
 

daj3_old

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I don't think he's amazing, but he provides good depth, and is a kiwi to boot. If he's prepared to sign on knowing he's likely to spend most of his time with the vulcans, I reckon he's a decent signing.

Funny how when the warriors are losing, certain players are considered terrible, then we win a few and all of a sudden they're ok. Still can't believe the fast turnaround from this forum on our hooking situation.
 

ryan1_old

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Still can't believe the fast turnaround from this forum on our hooking situation.
I don't think that the factions you are talking about have changed their opinions, but rather that they are simply waiting until we have a bad one as a means to justify their beliefs, again.
 

DanKokoro_old

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Funny how when the warriors are losing, certain players are considered terrible, then we win a few and all of a sudden they're ok. Still can't believe the fast turnaround from this forum on our hooking situation.

Could also be because when we're winning it's normally due to the fact that our players are performing
 

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