Isaiah Papali'i
Starting a player discussion thread on Isaiah Papalii who has been signed up by the Warriors. Kid has some awesome sporting ability. A name you will definitely hear more of in time...

Gold medals for weightlifter
November 2014



Congratulations to Year 11 student Isaiah Papalii, who came home from the Oceania Power Lifting Championships in New Caledonia with two gold medals.

Isaiah won the Youth (U17) 94kg+ division, and the Junior (U20) 105kg division with a 107kg snatch and a 125kg clean and jerk.

Isaiah, who is still only 15 years old, is also a member of MAGS' First XV.





https://www.mags.school.nz/Story?Action=View&Story_id=7562


Mount Albert Grammar crowned 2016 national secondary school rugby champions after tense final
Sun, Sep 4
Brodyn Knuckey
Isaiah Papalii 2016 1st XV.jpg
MAG's co captains, Waimana Reidlinger-Kapa (L) and Caleb Clarke (R) fool around with Isaiah Papali'i (centre) with the trophy.

Mount Albert Grammar have claimed the national secondary schools title this afternoon with a gritty 14-13 win in wet conditions over Hastings Boys' High School.

An impressive outing in Palmerston North from MAGS open side flanker Isaiah Papali'i spearheaded the determined outing from the Auckland side who showed touches of class with their kicking game and sheer muscle at scrum time.

But poor discipline late in the game from blind side flanker Thomas Barlow almost cost his side, after his dangerous tackle saw him sit out the final ten minutes of the game with a yellow card.

With fourteen men, MAGS held on to their 14-6 lead, thanks in part to Hastings' captain and halfback Lincoln McClutchie evening player numbers once.

McClutchie was yellow carded for the final minutes of the game after the referee had had enough of his niggling back-chat throughout the tense final.

Despite not losing a game all season prior to the final, Hastings Boys' were unable to get forward ball for most of the game and relied on the prefect boot of Danny Toala who went 3-from-3 off the tee to keep them in the game.

A consolation try on the hooter may leave the team ruing the bold decision in the 43rd minute to use their penalty on a lineout instead of three points when they were just 18 metres out.

The players from Hawke's Bay lost the ball two phases after the lineout and left MAGS' 22 with no points to show for their efforts.

both teams struggled to keep the ball in hand in the fast-paced game, with both sides reaching double figures in handling errors early in the second half.

But a dominant outing from Mount Albert's forward pack looked to be the difference as time and time again they dominated at the scrum and remained composed in countless pick-and-goes.

The title is Mount Albert Grammar's third since the tournament first began in 1982.

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/spo...dary-school-rugby-champions-after-tense-final
 

Off The Bench

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Jan 26, 2014
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Its awesome we lose Mannering an this kids ready an peaking .
An that's if he even gets a start with Pulu an Sao all trying to get one backrow spot
Blair an Green are the next two an looks like we are already bringing some youth over
To add to our stocks .This natural progression is way better than recruiting ..
Any way Papalii has to be in the team IMO
 
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WarriorBall

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If he’s the new breed of Warrior we’re trying to develop then the future is bright.

Would like to see him add some bulk over time if he’s going to playing in the middle, last season he was sitting at 103kg, at 109/110kg he’d be a difficult player to bring down. It’s a good call by SK to move him from the edge, I can really see him developing in that position more than any other tbh.

Reminds me a lot of a young Rodney So'oialo.
 

Sup42

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May 7, 2012
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tbh I thought he played pretty average for the JK's.

Great rookie year for the Warriors but feels bit like being awarded a car from Oprah.

He's our first hard worker with skills too...in a long time.
 
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Rick O'Shay

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May 1, 2013
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If he’s the new breed of Warrior we’re trying to develop then the future is bright.

Would like to see him add some bulk over time if he’s going to playing in the middle, last season he was sitting at 103kg, at 109/110kg he’d be a difficult player to bring down. It’s a good call by SK to move him from the edge, I can really see him developing in that position more than any other tbh.

Reminds me a lot of a young Rodney So'oialo.

Yup, fully agree. Noticed this year (early in the season) he had some great leg drive in the tackle to get post contact metres. Also had a few good late offloads.

Few more kilos can only help in that regard. Admire his work ethic as well.
 

Sup42

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May 7, 2012
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Not being a smart arse nor playing devils advocate.

I would say Taihoa (wait don't hurry) to folk wanting him to put weight on.

He's a Gym Bunny and his Mum owns a Gym, his Mum is a professional Rugby League player and a Gym owner/ trainer.

I would Hazard a deductive guess that he and his Mum are acutely aware of his weight and the best management thereof.

The healthiest way for a Nineteen year old to gain mass is to grow into it.

The challenge of living in a Gym and having an impressive Cardio base is maintaining weight.


If I were him I would stick with Wotever Mumsie has been doing his whole life and wait.

His power to Weight ratio is already off the charts...he is a champion power lifter..he is the most NRL resilient rookie we have ever seen....
 
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WarriorBall

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Not being a smart arse nor playing devils advocate.

I would say Taihoa (wait don't hurry) to folk wanting him to put weight on.

He's a Gym Bunny and his Mum owns a Gym, his Mum is a professional Rugby League player and a Gym owner/ trainer.

I would Hazard a deductive guess that he and his Mum are acutely aware of his weight and the best management thereof.

The healthiest way for a Nineteen year old to gain mass is to grow into it.

The challenge of living in a Gym and having an impressive Cardio base is maintaining weight.


If I were him I would stick with Wotever Mumsie has been doing his whole life and wait.

His power to Weight ratio is already off the charts...he is a champion power lifter..he is the most NRL resilient rookie we have ever seen....

Agreed which is pretty much why I said I’d like to see him add weight over time, have you seen how much he eats, I dunno if weight management is necessarily a problem for him. They must go through trays of eggs in that household lol.
 

fizurg

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May 18, 2012
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How much more weight can he put on? He’s been powerlifting since he was in nappy’s. Normally I would agree that him adding weight will be expected and beneficial but I can’t help wondering how close maxed out his frame is already.
 
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Viking

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How much more weight can he put on? He’s been powerlifting since he was in nappy’s. Normally I would agree that him adding weight will be expected and beneficial but I can’t help wondering how close maxed out his frame is already.
He's a shade under 6 foot so 103kgs is fine. Bunty is a couple of inches taller and a few kgs lighter and plays prop. Those official weights are usually listed in the pre-season when their cardio work is at it's highest, you would hope they don't get too much heavier than that during the season though.
 

mt.wellington

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Jun 21, 2012
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How much more weight can he put on? He’s been powerlifting since he was in nappy’s. Normally I would agree that him adding weight will be expected and beneficial but I can’t help wondering how close maxed out his frame is already.
I remember talking with one of the Warriors previous trainers about this very thing and he reckon you could only ever put on 2-3kgs of average weight a year safely. Anymore would put more strain on the legs and knees which would lead to more chances of injuries. You have to increase muscle mass all over the body so it it all supports itself. That's as best as I can explain it cause most of it went straight over my head :oops:.

Ben Matulino had an interesting article on weight gain a few years ago in which he said he started the season about 10kgs above his ideal weight. By the middle of the season he was playing at his ideal weight and by the seasons end he was slightly up on it. Same article he said he was going back to his pregame chicken pasta salad routine cause it worked for him despite what the nutritionist had told him. Lee Anne Wann was her name. Some of her ideas were out there...
 

Mr Frank White

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May 19, 2012
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I remember talking with one of the Warriors previous trainers about this very thing and he reckon you could only ever put on 2-3kgs of average weight a year safely. Anymore would put more strain on the legs and knees which would lead to more chances of injuries. You have to increase muscle mass all over the body so it it all supports itself. That's as best as I can explain it cause most of it went straight over my head :oops:.

Ben Matulino had an interesting article on weight gain a few years ago in which he said he started the season about 10kgs above his ideal weight. By the middle of the season he was playing at his ideal weight and by the seasons end he was slightly up on it. Same article he said he was going back to his pregame chicken pasta salad routine cause it worked for him despite what the nutritionist had told him. Lee Anne Wann was her name. Some of her ideas were out there...
Was she the one promoting no carbs? She may have been ahead of her time.
 
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