Kav_old

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What's the latest with Johnson? I haven't been able to catch any U20 games of late. Has he been playing terribly?

On the contrary - still the dominant organiser and playmaker. He always seems to have plenty of time to make decisions which tend to be the right ones. Comment was made today that the coach wanted him to take an even more decision making role. He has a very relaxed style which must come from confidence in his abilities.
 

Iafeta_old

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So why is no one talking him for first grade anymore?

Because he gets brushed off like a fly defensively against U20s boys.

Seymour is copping it, and rightly so, but James Maloney had an absolute howler. I don't think many can hold their head high after that performance.
 

Northern_Union

Guest
That second drop in a row from Maloney i put down to a bludger of a pass from Seymore.
 

DanKokoro_old

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That second drop in a row from Maloney i put down to a bludger of a pass from Seymore.

i love the way you totally excuse Maloney of any blame so you can put all the blame on Seymour. Vintage NU. It wasn't a great pass but a professional rugby league player should hold that 10 times out of 10. Those two drops in close succession were crucial.
 

Northern_Union

Guest
i love the way you totally excuse Maloney of any blame so you can put all the blame on Seymour. Vintage NU. It wasn't a great pass but a professional rugby league player should hold that 10 times out of 10. Those two drops in close succession were crucial.

I love the arrogance of your posts, vintage Dan. Seymore had a bludger of a game. Seymore is a professional footballer and is paid to make clean accurate passes 10 out of 10 times.
 

Fazz_old

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They were both shit. at least seymour was mostly invisible and scored a try though instead of dropping the ball everytime it came near him...
I agree though, I think we've gone backwards due to john being hurt...hopefully he gets a crack in the 2011 trails to get the 7 back. It would unfair if he didn't
 

WarriorDog_old

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i don't think it is because of Johns absense I think alot of it has to do with Moon's absense
 

Fazz_old

Guest
His defense you reckon? I'll grant you this, he wouldn't have put in that kick that the titans intercepted like Brown (who seemed a little bit kick happy one almost came off, the other was a disaster)

Could be a combo of both? One things for sure, Seymour needs to show some signs of life before the end of the year or John will be all over him to take his spot next year...Johnson too if he can improve his D
 

DanKokoro_old

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I love the arrogance of your posts, vintage Dan. Seymore had a bludger of a game. Seymore is a professional footballer and is paid to make clean accurate passes 10 out of 10 times.

i just straight up love you.. Yeah Seymour was crap i agree, I just don't know how anyone can be ripping in to Seymour when Maloney didn't play any better. I also think that Maloneys consecutive drops on the 1st/2nd tackles in attacking sets pretty much summed up a game of wasted opportunities to put pressure on the Titans, and turn that pressure in to points.
 

Spence_old

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They were both shit. at least seymour was mostly invisible and scored a try though instead of dropping the ball everytime it came near him...
I agree though, I think we've gone backwards due to john being hurt...hopefully he gets a crack in the 2011 trails to get the 7 back. It would unfair if he didn't

I love that our best half had a good game because he was invisible.
 

Iafeta_old

Guest
I just love the knee-jerk reactions to be honest. In truth, I'm loyal to James like a brother from another mother. And, I reserve making a holistic judgement on Seymour because frankly over 100 games that would EASILY be his worst performance for passing.

In terms of the comment that we've gone backwards since Isaac's injury, my opinion is you can trace that comment further back when James and Brett started to form a very nice partnership in the middle part of the season, albeit for 2 or 3 games, before injury struck again. I thought they looked the goods as a partnership earlier in the season, and continue to get my backing for the rest of the season with Isaac, and frankly, Shaun Johnson's D still being as soft as a marshmallow.
 

Northern_Union

Guest
i just straight up love you.. Yeah Seymour was crap i agree, I just don't know how anyone can be ripping in to Seymour when Maloney didn't play any better. I also think that Maloneys consecutive drops on the 1st/2nd tackles in attacking sets pretty much summed up a game of wasted opportunities to put pressure on the Titans, and turn that pressure in to points.

And i reciprocate your love with ardour :grouphug:

At no stage have i ripped into Seymore. All i've said is that he has been poor for the last two matches and that second dropped ball from Maloney was infact due to poor pass from Seymore. Geez if thats ripping in then this forum has gone softer than the Sharks forwards pack.
 

Fazz_old

Guest
I just love the knee-jerk reactions to be honest. In truth, I'm loyal to James like a brother from another mother. And, I reserve making a holistic judgement on Seymour because frankly over 100 games that would EASILY be his worst performance for passing.

In terms of the comment that we've gone backwards since Isaac's injury, my opinion is you can trace that comment further back when James and Brett started to form a very nice partnership in the middle part of the season, albeit for 2 or 3 games, before injury struck again. I thought they looked the goods as a partnership earlier in the season, and continue to get my backing for the rest of the season with Isaac, and frankly, Shaun Johnson's D still being as soft as a marshmallow.

I'm willing to chalk maloney's performance up to being a one off and Seymour's due to a lack of footy played, fact is we were going better with John. Could be a coincidence, could be a fact. Who knows?

I think we'll get a really good idea of how they're going in the next game against the sharks. Seymour started showing signs of life towards the end, the try he scored was pretty damn nice.

Agree about Johnson's defense. Maybe when he comes into first grade, give him a "minder" in D, ala Carroll and Lockyer?
 

DanKokoro_old

Guest
Geez if thats ripping in then this forum has gone softer than the Sharks forwards pack.

Lolz nah i wasn't even directing that at you NU.. just more at the general vibe of this thread. Just think it's a pointless discussion and thus i will take no further part. Seymour was signed for a reason and unless he plays like COMPLETE shit for the season and then gets fat in the off season, he's not going to be replaced by John who hasn't even reached double figures in NRL appearances.
 

RRG_old

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i don't think it is because of Johns absense I think alot of it has to do with Moon's absense

I couldn't agree more. Moon was defending very well, but was also offering a fair bit on attack.

Sharky has been playing great, but I think it was a huge call to make him the starting centre over Moon. Sharky had filled in a few games in the centre but this doesn't mean he should get the starting gig over a more experienced centre who had been playing well.
 

Iafeta_old

Guest
I could cop that decision if it meant Lousi was on the bench, but not with Lillyman coming into the starting line up. I saw Brown into the centres as a mean to populate an area of weakness due to injuries (centre) without compromising our back row where we have a large number of good backrowers currently. I didn't think Brown's defence was too bad, which has been Moon's main strength, though. The Zillman try in fairness came because no one was covering back, given Lance really wasn't in that play it was IMO a fullback positional error and a load of luck more than anything else.
 

Northern_Union

Guest
I couldn't agree more. Moon was defending very well, but was also offering a fair bit on attack.

Sharky has been playing great, but I think it was a huge call to make him the starting centre over Moon. Sharky had filled in a few games in the centre but this doesn't mean he should get the starting gig over a more experienced centre who had been playing well.

I started the season dead set against Moon being any where near the side. I argued hard with Magic Stick against Moon because i felt he too offend went missing for long periods. But it has become blatantly obvious to me and many others that Moon is offering a real solid platform on the right and his absence is noticable with whats happening on the pitch at present.
 

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