General Is this the twilight of democracy?

bruce

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To be honest, no. I saw today that the Republican and Democratic parties are both corporations
Ever wondered why the modern Democrats are so useless. And the earlier Democrats were so corrupt? Is that just a coincidence?

Like WTF is paying for Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema?

Did you know that in 2019 she came to NZ to run the Taupo marathon?

She just took annual leave and pissed off.
 

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Ever wondered why the modern Democrats are so useless. And the earlier Democrats were so corrupt? Is that just a coincidence?

Like WTF is paying for Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema?

Did you know that in 2019 she came to NZ to run the Taupo marathon?

She just took annual leave and pissed off.

Did she get citizenship? Give the modern Dems their dues, they are corrupt too, right up to and including Biden.
 

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they are corrupt too, right up to and including Biden.
If he is, why isn't he richer?
forbes.com/sites/michelatindera/2021/06/10/heres-how-much-joe-biden-is-worth/?sh=262d5056461b
 

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Did she get citizenship? Give the modern Dems their dues, they are corrupt too, right up to and including Biden.
Also, please remember, money isn't the only way to influence people.
 

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Trump nominated Gorusch to the SCOTUS. This is the idiot who would not wear a mask in court the other day.

If you have time listen to him being questioned at his confirmation hearing. Just a corrupt dick.
 
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This one is a must watch. An academic who has been studying civil ways around the world for over 30 years, Listen to what she says about merka. It won't be armies like in 1861, it will be militias like Islamic states.

 

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I think you can argue there has been a low level civil war going on since the 60's Weathermen probably the biggest evidence was Timothy McVeigh in Oklahoma City.. The Unabomber was against technology.

Among a significant dispossessed and abandoned desperate part of society there are trained ex military who have also been abandoned. America's wars are fought by the poor, who have been abandoned by their Government.

Their Government does not allow dissent, hence Ruby Ridge and Waco. actually got to speak to an American secret service agent not long after, he said both operations were over the top fuck ups.
 

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Among a significant dispossessed and abandoned desperate part of society there are trained ex military who have also been abandoned. America's wars are fought by the poor, who have been abandoned by their Government.
According to the experts who have studied civil unrest generally, and Merka specifically, poverty is not the major driver.

In Merka it is latent racism.

Most of those who caused trouble on Jan 6 were aging white people from areas that had been predominantly WASP, and were changing demography to non white immigrants.

Most had good jobs, or even ran their own businesses. Some even flew there in private jets.

The poor in Merka are not white guys, they are African Merkins or Hispanics.
 

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According to the experts who have studied civil unrest generally, and Merka specifically, poverty is not the major driver.

In Merka it is latent racism.

Most of those who caused trouble on Jan 6 were aging white people from areas that had been predominantly WASP, and were changing demography to non white immigrants.

Most had good jobs, or even ran their own businesses. Some even flew there in private jets.

The poor in Merka are not white guys, they are African Merkins or Hispanics.
Yes, but the white working class is going backwards. Once they work out this is a class issue, not a race one. look out.
 

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Yes, but the white working class is going backwards. Once they work out this is a class issue, not a race one. look out.
The poor whites may have voted for Trump, especially after the Russian misinformation, It still doesn't change the demographics of the MAGA people who invaded the Capitol. they don't fly confederate flags in Pennsylvania
 
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The poor whites may have voted for Trump, especially after the Russian misinformation, It still doesn't change the demographics of the MAGA people who invaded the Capitol. they don't fly confederate flags in Pennsylvania
It was the demographic that got radicalized by Qanon propoganda and the Storm, white Christian racist antisemites from all over the country united by bullshit conspiracies. Seemed to be a range of income brackets, not all poor southern rednecks for sure. I'd say 90% of them fully believed the satanic liberal baby eating narrative, minions like Ashli Babbitt. The other 10% knew exactly what was going on.
 
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In the riots there was a dude called Ray Epps who was prominent in the early stages of the break in. He is on tape shouting directions from the top of a scaffold and also one of the first to breach a barrier. He has some sort of wedding venue ranch in Arizona.

He was listed on the FBI wanted list, but later it was taken down. he has not been charged...with anything.🤔

Marjorie Taylor Green and Mat Gaetz have done a YouTube presentation on it. 😳

Epps, although clearly identified, has never been charged. Also attorney general Merrick Garland won't talk about it.

It is the conspiracy theory from heaven.😱

So this means the FBI were in on a plot to cause a riot. Simple eh?😲

Except:

The FBI at that stage were under the command of Trump appointees!!🤣
The DOJ was under the command of a Trump appointee!!🤣
Epps has been a long standing member of the Oath Keepers, and mixes with key white supremacists. 🤣
One who knew him well said that if he was an FBI plant, he was better than Donnie Brasco!!🤣

It is highly possible, that facing a few years jail time the FBI have managed to flip the dude...funny they never thought of that.🙄
 

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They will only charge people up to a certain level. A few sacrificial lambs.
That is what they did for Nixon. They went quite high up though. Nixon was the only one that got off.

It also looks as though there is already a grand jury investigating Trump in Georgia. He is shitting himself apparently.
 

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Senator Sheldon Whitehouse rarely makes the news.

That is because he doesn't rave for sound clips. He delves deeply into corporate money in the justice system. He addresses a lot of detail, which is heavy work, but the consequences are very serious.

Basically the story so far is the Federalist Society has spent $400 million on getting judges into the court system, especially the SCOTUS.

They have been like sleeping assets, but will soon start becoming more obvious.

One scary example is a belief that the US Constitution says that States can send their own electors to the Electoral College and ignore the popular vote.

Crazy, but true.

 

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Was just thinking if the Merkins can get themselves out of this shite...

then I remembered they still use the imperial system...

even the Brits have gone metric...😱

the Merkins are not alone...Myanmar and Liberia are also imperial.🤔

As a nation they are just plain stupid🙄
 
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While I continue to climb into the Merkin system, Sheldon Whitehouse mentioned the luxury trips, holidays and dinners SCOTUS judges get invited to.

Closer to home, if a court case is coming up that powerful outfits are concerned about they will make sure they have people get invited to parties, functions or whatever, where the trial judge is...and have a polite chat over a wine or four.🤔

Who told you that Bruce? A lawyer did Bruce.;)
 
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While I continue to climb into the Merkin system, Sheldon Whitehouse mentioned the luxury trips, holidays and dinners SCOTUS judges get invited to.

Closer to home, if a court case is coming up that powerful outfits are concerned about they will make sure they have people get invited to parties, functions or whatever, where the trial judge is...and have a polite chat over a wine or four.🤔

Who told you that Bruce? A lawyer did Bruce.;)

You know it is really cold when you see a lawyer with his hands in his own pockets.
 

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WASHINGTON — The Biden administration accused Moscow on Friday of sending saboteurs into eastern Ukraine to stage an incident that could provide President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia with a pretext for ordering an invasion of parts or all of the country.
The White House did not release details of the evidence it had collected to back up its charge, though one official said it was a mix of intercepted communications and observations of the movements of people. In an email, a U.S. official wrote that “Russia is laying the groundwork to have the option of fabricating a pretext for invasion, including through sabotage activities and information operations, by accusing Ukraine of preparing an imminent attack against Russian forces in eastern Ukraine.”
John F. Kirby, the Pentagon spokesman, called the intelligence about the operation “very credible” when asked about it at a Pentagon briefing on Friday.
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