General Healthcare Aus vs NZ systems (2 Viewers)

tHe_MaC

Warriors Bench Player
Oct 16, 2013
66
Pretty sure standard of care would be equal or better in auckland
You'd be pretty wrong. If it was 2007, maybe, but we are actually a long way behind in resources, technology, and even methods believe it or not.
That's just the public sector comparisons, private sector gap is even larger.
 

BeastMode

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Mar 7, 2015
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You'd be pretty wrong. If it was 2007, maybe, but we are actually a long way behind in resources, technology, and even methods believe it or not.
That's just the public sector comparisons, private sector gap is even larger.
Source?
 

BeastMode

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Mar 7, 2015
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His source authority is the medical professional advising to stay in Sydney..

What's your source for the claim medical care is the same if not better in Auckland?
So off the advice of a doctor for Taylor's kid to stay in Sydney, we can therefore make a sweeping generalisation about the medicare in Auckland?

Yeah thats makes a lot of sense.

I am neither saying he is right or wrong.

I havent had the previlage of having to use either locations thankfully but lets put in context how accurate his statement is based off his source.

Maybe Doctor Faggot can opine.

Calling Doctor Faggot....
 

tHe_MaC

Warriors Bench Player
Oct 16, 2013
66
Me - Just returned from living in Sydney, have had crohn's disease since I was 16, 30 now, have dealt with both NZ/AU systems, public & private. If you'd like more specific details, I'll happily give them to you (PM) but I was actually blown away by some of the differences, it scared me a little as to what we are up to over here. Was also recommended to stay but the people drove me insane so what's the point?

It would really depend on what issue his little one has. It may be well covered in Auckland but there is also a high chance that there are no experts or specialists at the level they require. The other thing to is, good doctors give you the information to make the decision, so if their specialist recommends them to stay, he will provide info on why he believes that to be the case. I'm sure they would vet it regardless and investigate the options available to them in Auckland but don't automatically assume what we have is better or even the same. You'll get a shock.

But really, how sad is it that we are talking about the merits of the Auckland/NZ healthcare system as a factor in recruitment... Sums up the place really, I feel like users on here put more effort into their posts than the players do for 80 minutes or even during the week. No wonder no one wants to come.
 

ToiletDuck

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Mar 30, 2012
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Auckland
I've worked in both Aus and NZ. Australian trained, have worked in QLD, NSW and Victoria.

Very similar standards of care etc. In fact many of the colleges (ie college of surgeons, college of emergency medicine, anaesthesia, ICU etc) are Australasian, ie you receive the same training and receive the same qualification at the end of it regardless of whether you're in NZ or Aus.

I've worked in Auckland since 2012 and have been at North Shore, Auckland City and Middlemore during that time. Auckland is drowning under the weight of a rapidly expanding population from a healthcare perspective. South Auckland and Middlemore in particular are at breaking point. There is no hospital between Middlemore and Hamilton, yet where are there development upon development being built? In exactly that area. Out West is on a similar scale, Waitakere Hospital is a tiny hospital never meant to service 500,000 people or whatever it does now. It doesn't even have most services you'd expect from a major hospital.

Staff in Auckland Hospitals work hard, but there is a constant sense of never doing enough, the hospitals are always over 100% capacity, hospital beds are manufactured in the short term, but it's all bandaid stuff.

As for me, I'm moving back to Brisbane in December. More resources, more money, more hospitals. If I got sick, sadly I'd rather be there than here. That's not to say that hospital workers in Auckland aren't as good, or as caring, or any other reason, other than these hospitals are buckling under enormous loads and when that happens mistakes are made, things are overlooked, adverse outcomes increase etc etc.

As for Taylor's daughter and the advice to stay in Sydney. I have NFI what her problems are, but it usually makes sense to stay where you are if you're getting top level care, purely from a logistical perspective. If you've got serious issues that will require years of treatment and followup then having the same people treating you from the outset is in theory better for you. You know them, they know you, they've prescribed the treatment, performed the operation(s) etc etc - the importance of which cannot be overstated, depending on the case.

Hope that helps!
 

bruce

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Sep 1, 2015
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Staff in Auckland Hospitals work hard, but there is a constant sense of never doing enough, the hospitals are always over 100% capacity, hospital beds are manufactured in the short term, but it's all bandaid stuff.
IME they do work very hard...and professionally. I always took the time to write and thank afterwards.
 
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