Internationals Golden Boot

Discussion in 'Intl/Rep Football' started by Hardyman's Yugo, Nov 9, 2018.

  1. Hardyman's Yugo
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    Well done Tommy Makinson. Worlds best player judged over two consecutive weekends:confused:
     
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    I don't hate the idea of picking a winner solely from international performances as it has completely different teams, structures and styles (Johnson being a prime example of the differences between international and NRL footy). People always used to argue over who should get it before because you essentially had two competitions with two sets of rules and standards which makes it very difficult to compare.

    The only problem with this format is that in a year like this there are so few international games played that the players have little chance to make a case for themselves. It'll probably always be controversial in that case, and it'd definitely take the gloss off the award as there would be better players who simply missed out or mightn't have had as much impact as those with more game time (RTS for example).

    The main thing is that fans understand what the award is and how it's given. It's the award given for the best performer in international games this calendar year, NOT the award given to the best rugby league player in the world for that year. That's how I see it anyways.

    Also isn't there still a game to go? Thought they'd leave it til they're all done and dusted at least. I thought DWZ was playing really well, if he has a blinder and MoM performance it'd have to put him ahead imo.
     
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    Dally M & Man of Steel awards.























    Golden Boot award.
     
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    Lol the Aussies are blowing up about it- if you thought SJ winning it set them off they’ve gone next level haha
     
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    Tommy Makinson's rise from the depths of despair to top of the rugby league world
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    By Dave Woods

    BBC rugby league correspondent

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    Dramatic Makinson hat-trick try seals victory
    Tommy Makinson has gone from the depths of despair to the top of the rugby league world.

    His Link has been hidden. Please Register to view. - recognising him as the World International Player of the Year - is the culmination of a stellar 2018 that has seen him burst onto the international stage with three eye-catching performances for England.

    He scored on his debut against New Zealand in Denver in June, put on a dynamic defensive display in the first Test against the Kiwis two weeks ago and followed that up with a hat-trick of tries against the same opposition last week.

    His performances, according to England coach Wayne Bennett, have put him "in a league of his own".

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    But his current success comes only two years after his career could have been ended by a devastating double injury.

    A Link has been hidden. Please Register to view. in the middle of the 2015 season, followed by a Link has been hidden. Please Register to view. on his comeback at the start of 2016, effectively put him out of the game for nearly two years.

    The fact he bounced back from that devastation to become the most talked about player in the world game does not surprise his St Helens team-mate and friend Jon Wilkin.

    "Sometimes that can be a seminal moment in people's careers," says Wilkin.

    "When they have genuine adversity, you often find out who's the hungriest. Those situations can go either way. They can define a player by their career not going the way they want it to or, in Tommy's case, can be a catalyst to start an international career."

    Makinson, 27, has become an England favourite for both his acrobatic brilliance in attack and his physical approach to defence.

    It wasn't just his three tries in the second Test that drew a roar of approval from the Anfield crowd.

    His road-block tackle on the powerful Kevin Proctor, to deny the Kiwis a certain try, also provoked a fist-pumping response from team-mates.

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    Makinson scores a try during the second Test between England and New Zealand at Anfield, Liverpool
    But it is his personality that makes him a winner, according to Wilkin.

    "When someone's performing so well at the top level of a sport, like Tommy is, there's a focus on his sporting prowess, on what he's doing on the field," says Wilkin.

    "Without Tommy Makinson, England don't win that last Test.

    "He won the game for them in the first 10 or 15 minutes with his defensive efforts.

    "He'll win the hearts and minds of the fans because of the tries he scores, but the hearts and minds of the people he plays with are won by the efforts not many people see.

    "The tale of Tommy Makinson and his development as a player can be linked directly to his personality. He's a very humble, hard working guy.

    "It's overused in sport to say he's a great character in the dressing room, but Tommy brings a lightness, a fun and an enjoyment, as well as a competitive element to everyday training at St Helens.

    "As an older player, having players like Tommy with his energy and his intensity round the place makes your job so much easier.

    "Tommy's rewards on the field are borne out of his character."

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    Makinson, right, with St Helens team-mates, from left, Adam Swift and Danny Richardson
    And Wilkin believes the Golden Boot award will have little effect on Makinson's approach to his sport and life in general.

    "Winning a personal accolade like this, I guarantee Tommy is a humble guy, so he'll thank everyone around him for what they've done for him.

    "But, ultimately, on those dark mornings in St Helens, when it's raining and he's re-habbing a real bad lower limb injury, there is only one person to attribute his success to and that's himself.

    "He'll never accept that, but that is where it's come from. His character and his actions, from his own standards for himself which he's been setting for years."


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    Didn't know where to put this but it's along the same lines.

    2018 World XIII named by 11 international league journalist

    1 James Tedesco (Australia)
    2 Tommy Makinson (England)
    3 Latrell Mitchell (Australia)
    4 Joseph Manu (New Zealand)
    5 Valentine Holmes (Australia)
    6 Luke Keary (Australia)
    7 Cooper Cronk (Australia)
    8 Luke Thompson (England)
    9 Damien Cook (Australia)
    10 Andrew Fifita (Tonga)
    11 Boyd Cordner (Australia)
    12 Elliott Whitehead (England)
    13 Jason Taumalolo (Tonga)

    World ratings

    Fullbacks
    James Tedesco
    Roger Tuivasa-Sheck
    Dallin Watene-Zelezniak
    Billy Slater
    Kalyn Ponga

    Wingers
    Tommy Makinson
    Valentine Holmes
    Josh Addo-Carr
    David Fusitua
    Blake Ferguson

    Centres
    Latrell Mitchell
    Joseph Manu
    Esan Marsters
    Joey Leilua
    Mark Percival

    Five-eighths
    Luke Keary
    Cameron Munster
    Gareth Widdop
    Shaun Johnson
    James Maloney

    Halfbacks
    Cooper Cronk
    Kodi Nikorima
    Daly Cherry-Evans
    Nathan Cleary
    Johnathan Thurston

    Props
    Luke Thompson
    Andrew Fifita
    Siosiua Taukeiaho
    James Graham = Jesse Bromwich

    Hookers
    Damien Cook
    James Roby
    Cameron Smith
    Josh Hodgson
    Issac Luke

    Second-rowers
    Boyd Cordner
    Elliott Whitehead
    John BatemanTyson
    FrizellTevita Pangai Jnr

    Locks Jason Taumalolo
    Sam Burgess
    Jake Trbojevic
    Sean O’Loughlin
    Adam Blair = Luke Thompson


    Manu the only kiwi to crack the team and no warriors however RTS, fus, SJ, Luke and Blair all made the top 5 for their position.
     
  7. Hardyman's Yugo
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    Bizarre that Bennett continues to avoid picking Mark Percival for England.
     
  8. Sup42
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    Must only be Warriors fans that think Blair is rubbish.

    He's in some pretty esteemed company there.
     
  9. bruce
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    I don't think he is rubbish.;)
     
  10. Mr Brownstone
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    Neither, I think he's worse than rubbish
     
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    SJ down the list a bit
     
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    Or is that a bit harsh? How much do the others get paid?
     
  13. bruce
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    I am sure he gets paid as much as DCE, Cronk and Thurston.

    I think Nikorima is on less but he turned down a big offer from Melbourne to stay at Brisbane so he must be on good coin.

    Nathan Cleary is on $600,000.

    IMO he is nowhere as valuable as Cronk. He was better than DCE in the Kangaroo test though but if Manly want to waste money that is their problem.
     
  14. Defence
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    Spare a thought for the likes of hunt, Milford, Morgan and Taylor who don't even make the list.
    Pearce, Foran, bird.....