General Ex-Warrior Russell Packer Jailed For Assault

Freddie Futler

1st Grade Fringe
Jun 10, 2013
2,235
Tauranga
Just read that article and breathed a sigh of relief that we had the foresight to recognise a troublemaker before he became a major embarrassment to our club.
Its a real shame how he has gone downhill so fast as I had a lot of time for Rusty and the mongrel he brought with his game.
It may have been the injuries that caused him to become like he has or maybe the fame and money have gone to his head.
Hope he settles down and comes back stronger.
 

pleatedpantspete

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Oct 9, 2012
144
Wasnt he swapped to the knights without him agreeing to it? Feel a bit sorry for him. So what, some punk stepped up and got beat down... worse things have happened.
 

slaughterhouse.sa

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May 26, 2012
1,617
Wasnt he swapped to his the knights without him agreeing to it? Feel a bit sorry for him. So what, some punk stepped up and got beat down... worse things have happened.

There is no such thing as swapping players without him agreeing to it.
He got told he was unwanted....his manager found a four year good money deal

Again there were so many people against his departure ...check all the messages
My questions is where are they now?
 

Hitman82

1st Grade Fringe
May 18, 2012
3,962
Wellington
Haha @smugosaurus rex ^. Nice work bro.

Very unfortunate news all round. Sounds like Packer lost the plot a bit after his exit - no excuses though. Hitting the grog and getting violent Is loser behaviour. NRL making an example it seems - sad day for the victim, league and Packer's family. Such a waste
 

Sup42

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May 7, 2012
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Jim Doyle

" Wayne did he really ask you to step outside "

Wayne

"Yes Jim there were Witnesses "
 

slaughterhouse.sa

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May 26, 2012
1,617
Jim Doyle

" Wayne did he really ask you to step outside "

Wayne

"Yes Jim there were Witnesses "

Jim Doyle - would of been witness to Packers antics over the years.
So whether that is fair or unlucky in Rusty's case.

Doyle was at NZRL - and ignoring the pissing on the field obviously probably privy do other discretions that dont get sniffed out by sydney media.
 

matiunz

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Jul 15, 2013
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I used to be quite a fan when he first came onto the scene felt we might have been a bit hasty to let him go after a year interupted with injury, however after seeing this it seems we may have dodged a bullet.Cant believe anyone would be this supid most people would kill to have a chance to be in his position and he just throws it away? Granted the victim probably provoked him but this is professional sport and unfortunately players need to learn to turn the other cheek in these situations
 
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Sup42

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May 7, 2012
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I used to be quite a fan when he first came onto the scene felt we might have been a bit hasty to let him go after a year interupted with injury, however after seeing this it seems we may have dodged a bullet.Cant believe anyone would be this supid most people would kill to have a chance to be in his position and he just throws it away? Granted the victim probably provoked him but this is professional sport and unfortunately players need to learn to turn the other cheek in these situations

Well to be fair we can't even make the assumption that 'the other guy provoked "

Thing is the reports have made it clear Russ was being the man before he knocked some poor dude out.....refusing to leave the bar he had been drinking in.

I was a barman years back....people who refuse to leave when asked are fkd in the head.....not an uncommon problem but you know you're dreaming when you refuse to leave somewhere.....

Next act , knock a young guy out.

That say's out of control Bully on the piss with a serious case of self entitlement.

I hope the courts smash him for it.

Who cares if he's not a kangaroo or not protected in some way....you'd like to think if you're out with the wife or the GF somewhere that you shouldn't have to put up with the testicle for brains losers on a sports rep......

Doesn't seem fair to have that loose in public...... he's got the training of a pro Athlete and you're maybe asking him for his Autograph....who knows.

Watching him fight snowden he's a puncher , not fast , favors a straight right.....some no name out there could easily sit that shit on it's ass.

In twisted street Logic had Packer met his match and copped a hiding he would be ok....I'd love to know how big the guy 130 kg Russ took out.
 
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mt.wellington

Warriors Orange Peeler
Jun 21, 2012
22,630
Mt. Wellington, Auckland
Sat down at the roulette table and then noticed Russell Packer and Simon Mannering were playing. This was before the Warriors Awards night in 2011. Said hi to Rusty and the look he gave me was one of complete disdain and disgust. Ignored it and asked him if he was having any luck. I swear he looked like he was going to belt me. Almost seemed as if, without even knowing me, he hated me. Mannering was also at the same table and started talking to me. Not sure whether he was trying to defuse something?

Never approached him again and I have afew jerseys that dont bear his signature because of it. He will actually go well out of his way to avoid fans.

I'll never forget how much of a dick Rusty was then and have little sympathy for him and his current situation...
 

Raurimu Massive

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Apr 26, 2012
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Whangarei
I'm sure I remember someone on this forum mentioning Fudgey totally smashed outside a club in Auckland, calling anyone he could out for a scrap, and getting knocked to the ground because he was so drunk. There has been other talk about his behaviour on the booze, so what we've seen in Aussie is part of a pattern, rather than a recent incident caused by stress/change/whatever.

You have to ask why something hadn't been done about him earlier, given what appears to be ongoing issues. Personal responsibility obviously has to be present, but if someone was there to guide him away from that attitude and behaviour, he could have been one of the game's premier props. Maybe that damned U20's exposure does give some of these guys too much of an ego and does as much harm as good. In this case, possibly more harm than good.
 

Freddie Futler

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Jun 10, 2013
2,235
Tauranga
I'm sure I remember someone on this forum mentioning Fudgey totally smashed outside a club in Auckland, calling anyone he could out for a scrap, and getting knocked to the ground because he was so drunk. There has been other talk about his behaviour on the booze, so what we've seen in Aussie is part of a pattern, rather than a recent incident caused by stress/change/whatever.

You have to ask why something hadn't been done about him earlier, given what appears to be ongoing issues. Personal responsibility obviously has to be present, but if someone was there to guide him away from that attitude and behaviour, he could have been one of the game's premier props. Maybe that damned U20's exposure does give some of these guys too much of an ego and does as much harm as good. In this case, possibly more harm than good.
I feel sorry for the wife and kids, he is out drinking till the small hours while wife is home looking after the children.
Its all about responsibility and being a good husband and father for the children.
 

surfin

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May 9, 2012
6,002
Coromandel
I'm sure I remember someone on this forum mentioning Fudgey totally smashed outside a club in Auckland, calling anyone he could out for a scrap, and getting knocked to the ground because he was so drunk. There has been other talk about his behaviour on the booze, so what we've seen in Aussie is part of a pattern, rather than a recent incident caused by stress/change/whatever.

You have to ask why something hadn't been done about him earlier, given what appears to be ongoing issues. Personal responsibility obviously has to be present, but if someone was there to guide him away from that attitude and behaviour, he could have been one of the game's premier props. Maybe that damned U20's exposure does give some of these guys too much of an ego and does as much harm as good. In this case, possibly more harm than good.

I'm a big believer in people need to be responsible for the choices they make, and unfortunately modern society seems to have plenty of experts that continuously seem willing to make excuses for people, we've all heard it, It's not there fault they have ADHD, too much freedom, not enough freedom, overprotective parents, not enough guidance from the parents, not enough breast milk, blah, blah, blah. Bullshit, sometimes some people are just arseholes and maybe that's exactly what we have here. Like everyone here I have an opinion on what the Warriors did in regards to Rustys release, it's based on rumours, "inside" info from reliable sources and my own assumptions, who's to say the calling out of Scurrah at the awards night was even the first time something like that happened, hell maybe being escorted out by mates was more them doing something they had done on other occasions to calm a situation, rather than comforting an upset mate who had just heard about his future for the first time. I always felt it was strange how a bloke could have a new job contract without having seen, accepted and signed it. Lastly this whole post is still based on the same rumours,reliable sources and assumptions.[DOUBLEPOST=1386448067][/DOUBLEPOST]
I feel sorry for the wife and kids, he is out drinking till the small hours while wife is home looking after the children.
Its all about responsibility and being a good husband and father for the children.

I don't think the being out without your wife and kids is too big a deal, I go out without my family at times just like they do without me, that in itself isn't the crime of the century.
 

surfin

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May 9, 2012
6,002
Coromandel
I'm a big believer in people need to be responsible for the choices they make, and unfortunately modern society seems to have plenty of experts that continuously seem willing to make excuses for people, we've all heard it, It's not there fault they have ADHD, too much freedom, not enough freedom, overprotective parents, not enough guidance from the parents, not enough breast milk, blah, blah, blah. Bullshit, sometimes some people are just arseholes and maybe that's exactly what we have here. Like everyone here I have an opinion on what the Warriors did in regards to Rustys release, it's based on rumours, "inside" info from reliable sources and my own assumptions, who's to say the calling out of Scurrah at the awards night was even the first time something like that happened, hell maybe being escorted out by mates was more them doing something they had done on other occasions to calm a situation, rather than comforting an upset mate who had just heard about his future for the first time. I always felt it was strange how a bloke could have a new job contract without having seen, accepted and signed it. Lastly this whole post is still based on the same rumours,reliable sources and assumptions.[DOUBLEPOST=1386448067][/DOUBLEPOST]

I don't think the being out without your wife and kids is too big a deal, I go out without my family at times just like they do without me, that in itself isn't the crime of the century.


Here we go, right on cue, and those of us with no Lamborghinis thought we had it tough.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/the-rich-kids-are-not-all-right-20131207-2yxw9.html
 

Gizzyfan

Warriors 1st Grader
Jan 2, 2013
4,747
There is no such thing as swapping players without him agreeing to it.
He got told he was unwanted....his manager found a four year good money deal

Again there were so many people against his departure ...check all the messages
My questions is where are they now?


I'm still here, my concerns were with the Warriors process which seemed to cause anger among other players as well. Packer's actions are for him to answer to. I say don't confuse that with the Warriors actions.
 

Far Away Fan

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I'm a big believer in people need to be responsible for the choices they make.....

So am I. But then people want a prop "with a bit of mongrel in him". Props who are young and tough on the pitch yet totally responsible off it, how many of them are there?

We see it or we hear of it all the time. Our young stars, it goes to their head, they reckon they're the greatest player ever, in many cases they're being told that, and it can so easily go haywire. Without appropriate player management. Have we had that?

I'm not excusing Russell's behaviour, but we have to accept something about the way we've looked after our players. Or haven't.

I remember from wandering around some Twitter stuff a while back, he and Matulino and who was it, Mateo? - they were thick as. None of them really performed last season as we all hoped they would. What's happened?

The only time all of the team were performing well was after the coach admitted that his structures weren't bringing results and sat down with them and said "what do you have to say, guys?" and after some soul-searching and open and honest talk and work started playing as a team. The players felt that they were part of it. When that happened, we could and did beat any other team, home or away.

And that isn't off topic, because reality is like this. If you treat anyone anyone as an object, then you get object-ionable behaviour.

Russell's an extreme example of those who need active player management and who need to be regarded as men. He is a prop with mongrel in him. You can wash your hands of his behaviour all you like, but.
 

mrblonde

Warriors 1st Grader
Apr 14, 2012
3,732
Auckland
Granted the victim probably provoked him

That's most likely the case.

There are people out there who take it as their sport to provoke "famous" people in public. But most are sensible to walk away and/or have enough sensible people around them to make sure nothing goes beyond the verbal.

And you can't use provocation as a defence in court.
 
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