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Worried2Death

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Clinton is a shady bastard for sure. If the Dems had not scuppered Bernie Sanders in favour of Hilary there would have been no Donald Trump.
I would trust Bernie over any of the other corrupt psychos in DC, but that's not saying much, he's just the best psycho.
 

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News reports that US Defence Contractors will sue the Pentagon if they withdraw from Afghanistan for breach of contract. At the same time their Defence Dept is issuing more contracts for dates up to 2023.

So, what are the chances they are getting out. What a seriously fucked up country.
 

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But wait, there is more. Warships, aircraft and submarines within the 1.5k health and safety exclusion zone of the Nord Stream 2 gas line construction. The plane was Polish Air Force..
 
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'Very real chance' Donald Trump will go to prison as financial probe heats up​

Two and a half months after leaving the White House, Donald Trump is, among other things, reportedly plotting a 2024 reprisal of his role as leader of the free world from the comfort of his resort in Florida's Palm Beach.

But if the former president's escalating legal woes are anything to go by, there's a "very real chance" he'll be heading to prison instead.

In addition to being the defendant in no fewer than 29 lawsuits, according to The Washington Post, the 74-year-old is also the subject of multiple criminal investigations — including one in which lawyers have obtained access to his tax returns after a four-year fight on Trump's part to keep them secret.

The investigation into whether he has committed bank, tax and insurance fraud has stepped up a notch in recent weeks, after the personal bank records of Trump Organisation CFO Allen Weisselberg were subpoenaed.

"Mr Weisselberg, who has not been accused of wrongdoing, has overseen the Trump Organisation's finances for decades and may hold the key to any possible criminal case in New York against the former president and his family business," reporters for The New York Times wrote on Wednesday.

People with knowledge of the matter also told The Times that prosecutors are seeking a new round of internal Trump Organisation documents to "compare those details [of each Trump property's financial situation] against the information the company provided to its lenders and local tax authorities to assess whether it fraudulently misled them".

While Trump likely won't go to jail for "the rest of his life", it's "pretty likely" that, if proven guilty of insurance and bank fraud, it could "lead to criminal charges and that would carry jail time", The Daily Beast's legal analyst, Jay Michaelson, said in late February.

"If Trump did commit crimes of some sort, even if they're kind of, you know, sort of ordinary business crimes — if he died, it's important that there not be a culture of impunity in this country, that there needs to be a message sent that there are consequences, no matter how rich and important you are, if you break the law," chief Washington correspondent for The New Yorker, Jane Mayer, told NPR's Terry Gross.

But, Mayer added, people she'd spoken to who know Trump are sceptical that he'll ever serve time in prison, predicting instead that "he would flee".

"It's hard to know what to expect. But it's — for me, anyway, it's hard for me to contemplate him truly in an orange jumpsuit at, you know, Rikers Island," she said.

"I think there's absolutely a chance that he could face serious charges and be convicted. I mean, this is no joke."

In addition to the criminal probe, Trump was also sued this week by two Capitol Police officers, who battled the angry mob that the former president was accused of "inciting" on January 6.

In a federal lawsuit, officers James Blassingame and Sidney Hemby are demanding damages for the physical and emotional injuries they suffered during the violent insurrection.

"The insurrectionist mob, which Trump had inflamed, encouraged, incited, directed, and aided and abetted, forced its way over and past the plaintiffs and their fellow officers, pursuing and attacking them inside and outside the United States Capitol, and causing the injuries," the suit states, according to The Washington Post.

"Officer Hemby was attacked relentlessly. He was bleeding from a cut located less than an inch from his eye. He had cuts and abrasions on his face and hands and his body was pinned against a large metal door, fending off attacks."

Officer Blassingame, who is Black, faced "endless threats and attacks" from the mob, and "it was not clear to him on January 6 that he would survive to make it home".

Trump also faces multiple defamation suits — including writer E. Jean Carroll's, who accused him of sexually assaulting her in Bergdorf Goodman in late 1995 or early 1996, only for him to deny her allegations and claim she was lying to drum up sales for a book.

Another, involving former Apprentice contestant Summer Zervos, has been given the green light to move forward after Trump's lawyers attempted to get it dismissed because he was the president.

Zervos came forward in the lead-up to the 2016 election, alleging that Trump groped and kissed her without her consent in 2007. In 2017, she sued him for defamation after he denied her allegations and called her story a "hoax".

"Now a private citizen, the defendant has no further excuse to delay justice for Ms Zervos, and we are eager to back to the trial court and prove her claims," a lawyer for Zervos, Beth Wilkinson, told The Wall Street Journal in a statement.

 

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Trump, Biden, Clintons, Bush, Cheney, all as corrupt as fuck but none will ever see a day behind bars. The whole US system is based on, and has legalised corruption. All their policies, foreign and domestic are to aid and enrich their their Corporate donors.
 

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'Very real chance' Donald Trump will go to prison as financial probe heats up​

Two and a half months after leaving the White House, Donald Trump is, among other things, reportedly plotting a 2024 reprisal of his role as leader of the free world from the comfort of his resort in Florida's Palm Beach.

But if the former president's escalating legal woes are anything to go by, there's a "very real chance" he'll be heading to prison instead.

In addition to being the defendant in no fewer than 29 lawsuits, according to The Washington Post, the 74-year-old is also the subject of multiple criminal investigations — including one in which lawyers have obtained access to his tax returns after a four-year fight on Trump's part to keep them secret.

The investigation into whether he has committed bank, tax and insurance fraud has stepped up a notch in recent weeks, after the personal bank records of Trump Organisation CFO Allen Weisselberg were subpoenaed.

"Mr Weisselberg, who has not been accused of wrongdoing, has overseen the Trump Organisation's finances for decades and may hold the key to any possible criminal case in New York against the former president and his family business," reporters for The New York Times wrote on Wednesday.

People with knowledge of the matter also told The Times that prosecutors are seeking a new round of internal Trump Organisation documents to "compare those details [of each Trump property's financial situation] against the information the company provided to its lenders and local tax authorities to assess whether it fraudulently misled them".

While Trump likely won't go to jail for "the rest of his life", it's "pretty likely" that, if proven guilty of insurance and bank fraud, it could "lead to criminal charges and that would carry jail time", The Daily Beast's legal analyst, Jay Michaelson, said in late February.

"If Trump did commit crimes of some sort, even if they're kind of, you know, sort of ordinary business crimes — if he died, it's important that there not be a culture of impunity in this country, that there needs to be a message sent that there are consequences, no matter how rich and important you are, if you break the law," chief Washington correspondent for The New Yorker, Jane Mayer, told NPR's Terry Gross.

But, Mayer added, people she'd spoken to who know Trump are sceptical that he'll ever serve time in prison, predicting instead that "he would flee".

"It's hard to know what to expect. But it's — for me, anyway, it's hard for me to contemplate him truly in an orange jumpsuit at, you know, Rikers Island," she said.

"I think there's absolutely a chance that he could face serious charges and be convicted. I mean, this is no joke."

In addition to the criminal probe, Trump was also sued this week by two Capitol Police officers, who battled the angry mob that the former president was accused of "inciting" on January 6.

In a federal lawsuit, officers James Blassingame and Sidney Hemby are demanding damages for the physical and emotional injuries they suffered during the violent insurrection.

"The insurrectionist mob, which Trump had inflamed, encouraged, incited, directed, and aided and abetted, forced its way over and past the plaintiffs and their fellow officers, pursuing and attacking them inside and outside the United States Capitol, and causing the injuries," the suit states, according to The Washington Post.

"Officer Hemby was attacked relentlessly. He was bleeding from a cut located less than an inch from his eye. He had cuts and abrasions on his face and hands and his body was pinned against a large metal door, fending off attacks."

Officer Blassingame, who is Black, faced "endless threats and attacks" from the mob, and "it was not clear to him on January 6 that he would survive to make it home".

Trump also faces multiple defamation suits — including writer E. Jean Carroll's, who accused him of sexually assaulting her in Bergdorf Goodman in late 1995 or early 1996, only for him to deny her allegations and claim she was lying to drum up sales for a book.

Another, involving former Apprentice contestant Summer Zervos, has been given the green light to move forward after Trump's lawyers attempted to get it dismissed because he was the president.

Zervos came forward in the lead-up to the 2016 election, alleging that Trump groped and kissed her without her consent in 2007. In 2017, she sued him for defamation after he denied her allegations and called her story a "hoax".

"Now a private citizen, the defendant has no further excuse to delay justice for Ms Zervos, and we are eager to back to the trial court and prove her claims," a lawyer for Zervos, Beth Wilkinson, told The Wall Street Journal in a statement.

It amazes me that a man with so many serious crimes, is far from being a certainty to go to jail.

The yanks think the President symbolizes this democracy leader of the free world bullshit. Look at the truth, they are pretty much the dirtiest country in the world for corruption.

Trump is not even likely to face conviction for his worst crimes.

Covid lies and half a million dead people should be the top of the list.

Sexual offending.

Trying to overthrow the govt by force next.

Trying to rig Georgia next.

And yet the only way to get a mob boss in the US is to flip one of his insiders and to nail him for tax evasion....

I guess you should expect that from such a corrupt country.
 

Gizzyfan

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The man who gave us 'American Pie' and 'Vincent' wrote 'Colour TV Blues' about his country, sums it up for me.

I got a color TV for a limited time
And you can have it by tonight, it'll bend your mind
I wouldn't just sell it to an ordinary fool
Y' have to be sure that the fool has cool
Since you look like a man with heart and soul
If you buy it from me now, you get a free mixing bowl

I'll even let you have a little button I' got
That says have a nice day , you're gonna like it a lot

Popular music is the national craze
Rock and Roll stars have the kids in a daze
But twist the knob around for a different point of view
And you'll twist that knob till it comes unscrewed
There's only one song that the TV sings and that's
Pennies From Heaven, while the register rings

So it's easy to see, right from the start
That what makes good money, makes good art

Now did you read the encyclical that's written by the Pope
Sayin' folks with private property just got no hope
The rich ain't welcome in the heavenly Palladium
But the Knights of Columbus own Yankee Stadium
Now I ain't sayin' that the Pope was wrong
But he can easily afford to sing that song
If you'd like to call him up when you need some dough
His number's Et Cum Spiri 2 2 0

The kids that fought the war are livin' outa state
And the CIA is runnin' things of late
When we elect a man, we put him on the spot
'cause if he don't play ball, he might get shot
The national security keeps it from the voters
'cause what's good for America isn't good for General Motors

We went and found ourselves some mighty strange lovers
The kind that like to blow from underneath the covers

Well millions can avoid with Dr Sigmund Freud
Those realities of life that tend to make me paranoid
Lookin' for the answer just gives me indigestion
I spent so much time, just dealin' with the question
We'd rather talk of dollars and forget about events
When what we have to decide is; Does it all make sense?

Well everybody's happy, I saw it on the news
But me, I' got a case of color TV blues

You know, just 'cause you're paranoid
Doesn't mean they're not trying t' get ya'
 

bruce

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Many on here have asked if Trump was a cause or a symptom of the problems in the US.

This very good book by former Republican speaker John Boehner makes it clear, Trump is a symptom but added he brought special skill to his role.

Boehner mentions the right wing media, especially Fox News, and the need for a politician to be loud rather than a good lawmaker.

 
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