Sup42

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Quadruple your security detail Mitch!
Mitch is personally wealthy, his Chinese wife is independently wealthy, her Chinese family are massively wealthy. Mitch has very wealthy financial backers.

Trump is virtually bankrupt, so is his son in law and his family business, and so are his right wing losers.

Money tends to win in that country.

I don't like the Mitch, or his politics, at all. However he is not one to pick a fight with. Trump might have met his match.
 
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Noitall

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Mitch is personally wealthy, his Chinese wife is independently wealthy, her Chinese family are massively wealthy. Mitch has very wealthy financial backers.

Trump is virtually bankrupt, so is his son in law and his family business, and so are his right wing losers.

Money tends to win in that country.

I don't like the Mitch, or his politics, at all. However he is not one to pick a fight with. Trump might have met his match.
Don’t mean for this to sound like it could be interpreted but that is exactly mcconnells weakness. Trump yesterday launched an attack on mcconnell in bed with the enemy and how he’s owned by the chinese. Trump also said any republican maga supporters would have his full endorsement and those against he will make their lives hell
 
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Donald Trump lawsuits and investigations: Six headaches for the former president​


Donald Trump may have breathed a sigh of relief from his Florida resort when he was acquitted by the US Senate over the weekend, but he is now facing an avalanche of lawsuits, inquiries and criminal investigations.

The former president is finding himself being bombarded with legal challenges from every angle as he looks to wind down after his four years in power.

In total he faces six major hurdles so far, including a '9/11-type commission' into the Capitol riot, a criminal investigation into his loans and lawsuits from women who accused him of sexual assault.

During his presidency, Trump's lawyers repeatedly invoked immunity and executive privilege to keep him from having to testify – but once again a private citizen, he's now far more vulnerable.

There may be other legal challenges yet to surface against the former president, and this week he has been served a taste of what's to come in his post-politics life.

The latest challenge came overnight with civil rights organisation the National Association for the Advancement of Coloured People filing a federal lawsuit against him and Rudy Giuliani, accusing the duo of conspiring to incite the January 6 riot.

The suit, which seeks compensatory and punitive damages and also names the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers as defendants, alleges that Trump, his lawyer and members of the far-right groups plotted to stop Congress from certifying the results of the 2020 election, which the NAACP says violates the 1871 Ku Klux Klan Act.

In response to the move, a spokesman for Mr Trump told The Wall Street Journalthe former president had nothing to fear.

"President Trump has been acquitted in the Democrats' latest Impeachment Witch Hunt, and the facts are irrefutable," he said. "President Trump did not plan, produce or organise the January 6 rally on the Ellipse. President Trump did not incite or conspire to incite any violence at the Capitol on January 6."

'9/11-TYPE COMMISSION'

Adding to Trump's ever-growing to-do list, Nancy Pelosi, the Democratic Speaker of the House of Representatives, called on Monday for the creation of a 9/11-style Commission to look into the January 6 attack.

She said she would move to establish an "outside, independent 9/11-type Commission" to probe the US Capitol assault that left five people dead.

The Commission would "investigate and report on the facts and causes relating to the January 6, 2021 domestic terrorist attack upon the United States Capitol Complex," Pelosi said in a statement.

It would also look into "the interference with the peaceful transfer of power" and the preparedness and response of the Capitol Police and branches of law enforcement.

An exhaustive probe was launched following the September 11, 2001 al-Qaeda attacks that killed about 3000 people in the United States.

Several Republicans have also said they want an independent probe into the Capitol assault by Trump loyalists who were seeking to halt the final certification of President Joe Biden's election victory.

"We need a 9/11 commission to find out what happened to make sure it never happens again," Republican Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, one of Trump's fiercest defenders, told Fox News Sunday.

Trump is also facing possible state and federal charges related to the riot. In the days that followed it, Washington D.C. Attorney-General Karl Racine said the former president could face prosecution and that his office was working with federal prosecutors on the case.

$360 MILLION IN DONALD TRUMP LOANS PROBED

The investigation is just another item on a growing list of legal headaches Trump faces now that he is a private citizen without presidential legal protections.

The 74-year-old former president is already the target of at least one criminal investigation, led by Manhattan prosecutor Cyrus Vance, who has been fighting for months to obtain eight years of his tax returns.

Now it is understood the probe is near completion.

People familiar with the matter told The Wall Street Journal that more than $US280 million ($NZ390 million) in loans taken out by the former president for Trump Tower; 40 Wall St; Trump International Hotel and Tower; and Trump Plaza are being examined.

District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr's office is investigating the loans – made to Trump by subsidiaries of Ladder Capital Corp, a New York City-based real-estate investment trust – since 2012.

The probe, led by Vance, a Democrat, has been labelled a partisan "witch hunt" by the former president, while his lawyers have called it a "fishing expedition" aimed at gaining Trump's tax returns.

What began last year as an investigation into an alleged hush money payment to porn star Stormy Daniels has grown into a wider probe of what Vance's office has described as "possibly extensive and protracted criminal conduct" at Trump's business, including allegations of bank and insurance fraud.


GEORGIA ON TRUMP'S MIND

It's not just the Capitol riot and his taxes that have Trump in a spot of bother. He has the fallout of his election-rigging claims to deal with.

Last week, a prosecutor in Georgia revealed she was investigating Trump's efforts to subvert the state's results in the November 3 election by pressuring Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger to "find" enough votes to overturn the results.

"I just want to find 11,780 votes," Trump told him, a recording of the hour-long call showed.

Trump said in the call that a failure to do so would be a "criminal offence".

"You can't let that happen. That's a big risk to you," he said.
The investigation is focused on contacts between subjects of the investigation and Raffensperger, the Governor, State Attorney General and the federal prosecutor for the area – all of whom had contact with Trump and his representatives after the vote.

The investigation will span potential charges of election fraud, false statements, conspiracy, racketeering and involvement in violence or threats related to the election.


FALLOUT FROM SEXUAL ASSAULT ALLEGATIONS

To top it all off, Trump is additionally fending off civil lawsuits, including from two women who have alleged he sexually assaulted them and are suing him for defamation.

At least 26 women accused Trump of sexual misconduct, including assault, since the 1970s.
Trump has denied any wrongdoing in all of the cases we have outlined.

He is facing a defamation suit over his response to claims from author E. Jean Carroll, who alleged Trump raped her in a department store in the 1990s. Trump said she was "totally lying" to sell a memoir.

The lawsuit is currently on hold as an appeals court weighs Trump's argument that the United States government, rather than he as an individual, should be the defendant.

AP reports that government lawyers have argued that statements he made about Carroll fell within the scope of his work as president because Carroll was, in effect, questioning his fitness to hold public office.

A ruling in Trump's favour would allow the Justice Department to represent him in the matter.

Trump is also facing a defamation case from Apprentice contestant Summer Zervos.

She told reporters at an October 2016 press conference that Trump assaulted her during a 2007 meeting at The Beverly Hills Hotel.

Zervos is suing Trump for defamation after he accused her of lying about the allegations.

Trump's lawyers previously claimed the Constitution gives him immunity from civil suits filled in New York State. It's an argument that he can no longer hide behind and the suit is ongoing.

 

bruce

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In other related news I'm reading that rush Limbaugh is dead
It is true...he had 15.5 million radio listeners who will miss him dearly:(...and probably 80 million people who will be pleased to see the back of him:rolleyes:...just a right wing racist, white supremacist, sexist bottom feeder and all round loud mouthed dickhead IMO.
 

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Trump yesterday launched an attack on mcconnell in bed with the enemy and how he’s owned by the chinese.
McConnell is heavily backed by corporates, including big pharma. He isn't my type of guy.

IMO he and Trump deserve each other, and my money is on Mitch. It is a bit like seeing two dogs who bite people fighting to the death, quite interesting.

I think it is now obvious the GOP is finished from what it was 20 years ago.

The big question is will guys like Mitch be able to kick Trump out of the party, or will they abandon ship and start something new?

Seeing that the GOP started in 1854, we really are seeing history being made right now.
 

Sup42

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Georgia....the Klan state is trying to change its constitution to protect Trump.

America is the enemy of the free world.

 
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Imperialism and colonialism was about powerful white European countries taking over countries with indigenous populations to exploit the resources. They had the military, and probably more importantly, the numbers flooding in to take over. The American Indians never lost a battle against the US army, and the Maori kicked some serious arse here. However sheer numbers told in the end.

There things diverged, America had, and continued slave holding for a long time and required a Civil war to stop it. However the whites never relinquished control and the lines are constantly being redrawn to favour the whites.

We had the Treaty, imperfect, but at least a starting point and a far reaching document for its time. The Americans basically break every Treaty they sign. It is all about power and control..
 
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Noitall

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McConnell is heavily backed by corporates, including big pharma. He isn't my type of guy.

IMO he and Trump deserve each other, and my money is on Mitch. It is a bit like seeing two dogs who bite people fighting to the death, quite interesting.

I think it is now obvious the GOP is finished from what it was 20 years ago.

The big question is will guys like Mitch be able to kick Trump out of the party, or will they abandon ship and start something new?

Seeing that the GOP started in 1854, we really are seeing history being made right now.
With what I witnessed on January 6, I hate to say, but my money is on trump. They’ve all seen the base now and what they’re capable of. Trump needs the republicans because the devoted republican voter is a big portion of the 74 million plus votes he accumulated, mcconnell could very well be pushed out by the new Ioyalists coming through that seem to represent a large portion of the Republican Party. News yesterday of a republican who has gone against the cult and his parents saying he is possessed by the devil. With talk of trump starting his own social media platform it would be a good ploy to spout his shit just as dictators in the world such as duterte having this platform through facebook. The presidential power of not being answerable to near anything probably seems pretty handy to him.
 
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With what I witnessed on January 6, I hate to say, but my money is on trump. They’ve all seen the base now and what they’re capable of. Trump needs the republicans because the devoted republican voter is a big portion of the 74 million plus votes he accumulated, mcconnell could very well be pushed out by the new Ioyalists coming through that seem to represent a large portion of the Republican Party. News yesterday of a republican who has gone against the cult and his parents saying he is possessed by the devil. With talk of trump starting his own social media platform it would be a good ploy to spout his shit just as dictators in the world such as duterte having this platform through facebook. The presidential power of not being answerable to near anything probably seems pretty handy to him.
Trump can't win without the moderates either. If biden performs decently this could be the biggest gift for the dems for the next 5-10 years.
You never see Republicans split or infighting like the dems do. They ALWAYS fall in line come election time. I still see that happening but with Trump around there's a possibility.
 
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Gizzyfan

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Never underestimate the Democrats ability to shoot themselves in the foot, in fact they aim. They are beholden to the same corporate interests as the republicans. Anywhere else in the world Biden would be regarded as a right winger.

Just as the republicans are in a civil war within the party, so are the democrats with the corporate democrats (Biden, Clinton) against the progressives coming through (AOC, Gabbard). It is all about change, the progressives want it, the corporates don't.

Follow the money, corporate interests back Biden and McConnell. Even if Trump starts his own party he will not get a platform with msm, because of those corporate interests. It would be the same if it was Sanders, or anyone outside the inside elites who are welded on to the two party system..
 
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Noitall

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Never underestimate the Democrats ability to shoot themselves in the foot, in fact they aim. They are beholden to the same corporate interests as the republicans. Anywhere else in the world Biden would be regarded as a right winger.

Just as the republicans are in a civil war within the party, so are the democrats with the corporate democrats (Biden, Clinton) against the progressives coming through (AOC, Gabbard). It is all about change, the progressives want it, the corporates don't.

Follow the money, corporate interests back Biden and McConnell. Even if Trump starts his own party he will not get a platform with msm, because of those corporate interests. It would be the same if it was Sanders, or anyone outside the inside elites who are welded on to the two party system..
Money’s great, but probably not as attractive as freedom. Have you seen footage of republican members who went against the grain? The base driving up and down the road outside their houses waving their trump flags. These guys thought they were untouchable until capital hill got stormed, not so much now. Ever since trump lost the election there have been reports he was going to start his own news channel and the latest his own social media platform. There’s his platform right there, personalities on fox are still loyal. For those corporates who support the likes of Biden or McConnell, I can imagine there are others whose interests would be served by that system being overthrown. As the capital hill siege and many revolutionary protests around the world have shown, there isn’t really an answer to the power of numbers.
 

Gizzyfan

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Money’s great, but probably not as attractive as freedom. Have you seen footage of republican members who went against the grain? The base driving up and down the road outside their houses waving their trump flags. These guys thought they were untouchable until capital hill got stormed, not so much now. Ever since trump lost the election there have been reports he was going to start his own news channel and the latest his own social media platform. There’s his platform right there, personalities on fox are still loyal. For those corporates who support the likes of Biden or McConnell, I can imagine there are others whose interests would be served by that system being overthrown. As the capital hill siege and many revolutionary protests around the world have shown, there isn’t really an answer to the power of numbers.
A big majority of people want a single payer healthcare system. Along with other things which are blocked politically because health insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies have bought off the pollies.
 
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Noitall

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A big majority of people want a single payer healthcare system. Along with other things which are blocked politically because health insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies have bought off the pollies.
It’s not just those big players, Yellowstone is a good show on at the moment that shows the power of the big ranches in the states. Though just a tv show, I could imagine a reality with how they continue to think they’re cowboys. A vote for an independent candidate is pretty much a wasted vote, a continuing problem regarding politics around the world seems to be tribalism.
 

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