General disappointed at the low crowd numbers at warriors home games

danielspencer2_old

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why are there only 8210 or less people in the crowd at warriors home games? It's pretty embarrassing to watch on tv when in aussie they get alot more people at games than in NZ. Look how much ppl turn up for blues games. there is so many. I wonder why it is that the warriors get low crowds. the blues had a disappointed season but the crowds were still bigger than the warriors crowds. Maybe the warriors need to do a bit more marketing or sumthing? I reckon their sponsor vodafone should give away 2 double passes to warriors home games on the show vodafone sponsors which is called 'vodafone select live' on C4 music tv. They should also get some promo girls to stand outside auckland high schools at the end of the school day and handout flyers as to when warriors home games are on this season. Now half time entertainment. well no cheerleaders(thats a disappointment). Maybe they'll get attract more youth by getting a hiphop dance group to perform at half time or sumthing. Has anyone got the warriors marketing person's email or how to contact him or her?
 

Wiki_old

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See the sub-forum, Suggestions?

Pop all your ideas in there and they will be forwarded on through the team.

Cheers for the input!
 

da mad maori

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We have formed a Warriors "fans" committee Daniel. We had our first meeting with Wayne and Richard, at the Warriors HQ this saturday just gone. You can expect to see some changes in the way of entertainment very soon. As for the numbers who attend the games, its got a pretty easy explanation really. Winners draws crowds. And if the team can repeatedly perform as they did against last years prmiers, then seats will fill.
 

AmeriKiwi_old

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That`s right, winning teams are what draws big crowds, just as people bail out on losing teams like rats from a burning ship. Still, I don`t feel the Warriors have played badly enough to draw SUCH low numbers to Ericsson, and introducing some quality entertainment and other amenities for the fans should help to change things.
 

jahc_old

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Re: disappointed at the low crowd numbers at warriors home g

I absolutely LOVE the Warriors. I think I watched their second ever game in the ARL while channel surfing, but I was instantly hooked by the running and electric passing that is typical of a league game. Anyway, I do live in Auckland, but I prefer the view you get on tv. Whereas other sports like ice hockey, I prefer to watch at the rink and hate the view tv gives you. I went to a few NZ vs AUS tests a few years ago for the atmosphere, but still these days I prefer televised coverage. My dad is the same way.
 

L N_old

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statistically the numbers might of been low
but the volume level was vocal in the south stand as were the other stands

great game and the crowd that was there
were entertained
and enjoyed themselves

the family special concession tickets
sold in conjunction with the butchers promo
went along way in filling
some of the south stand

I was surprised that it wasn't fill to the brim
with the excellent deal that was promoted
for the family concession

I hope it long may continue
well it would but a hell of a less of a strain
on my wallet anyway
with the amount of little experts
that come along with me and my son
come game day
 

AliN_old

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I emailed the MB company and they said the South stand deal was a one off unfortunately LN. We were thinking of joining you over there for the Broncos game, but may just stick to the good old East Stand.
Wasn't it great to hear the chants back.
Just over 8000 there, but sounded like a packed stadium
Awesome!
 

IanR_old

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AliN said:
I emailed the MB company and they said the South stand deal was a one off unfortunately LN. We were thinking of joining you over there for the Broncos game, but may just stick to the good old East Stand.
Wasn't it great to hear the chants back.
Just over 8000 there, but sounded like a packed stadium
Awesome!

Go on. It'll be a 32 degree Auckland Sunday afternoon. Tramp on over.
 

D Generation X_old

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da mad maori said:
We have formed a Warriors "fans" committee Daniel. We had our first meeting with Wayne and Richard, at the Warriors HQ this saturday just gone. You can expect to see some changes in the way of entertainment very soon. As for the numbers who attend the games, its got a pretty easy explanation really. Winners draws crowds. And if the team can repeatedly perform as they did against last years prmiers, then seats will fill.
yea thats true da mad moari
 

Northern_Union

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Thats odd cause i was just about to start a thread called "where have all the league fans gone"

I remember back to the early 80's watching Glenora v Otahuhu seniors at an inner city ground, there was 5000 there as i remember it. At another Glenora game at the rec ground in Gleneden the side lines were packed and me and my dad were watching the game from the rised area over the road, he reckoned at the time there was around 4000 there. I played a half time game as a junior at a club semi final at Carlaw, the place was packed meaning there must have been around 18 - 21000 there.

Now, whats happened to all these people? where have the league fans gone?
 

ozbash_old

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its all about competition, being able to give more bang for your buck.

the warriors have a fan base who no matter what, will turn up to see a game. this base isnt that big through one reason or another and they have to compete with other entertainment sources in auckland to get the bum on the seat.

losing games and playing poorly enough to cause continuing dissapointment does not help their cause.
a very highly marketed and profiled game of S14 on the same night would have done nothing to help.

imo its catch 22. the fans wont turn up till theres something on offer,, usually a good win like saturday night. the team find it harder to lift and win a game without the noise and homeground advantage. previous to saturday night, i hadnt heard the 'chant' for 2-3 games. we lost them.
heard it about 4 times on saturday and we pissed in.

everyone was in a good mood, players and crowd, it ws that magical combo.
the warriors are aware of the need to attract fans back to the game, we can help by suggesting ideas (no matter how lame or stupid you think they might be) that the club can have a look at.

there are roughly 1000-1500 members here, they have 1 solitary marketing man .

we should think of 1 idea/plan each a month.. which combined is probably more than they,d get a year.

believe me, they (the club) are very interested in our ideas.
 

playdaball_old

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RS_Dragon said:
Thats odd cause i was just about to start a thread called "where have all the league fans gone"

I remember back to the early 80's watching Glenora v Otahuhu seniors at an inner city ground, there was 5000 there as i remember it. At another Glenora game at the rec ground in Gleneden the side lines were packed and me and my dad were watching the game from the rised area over the road, he reckoned at the time there was around 4000 there. I played a half time game as a junior at a club semi final at Carlaw, the place was packed meaning there must have been around 18 - 21000 there.

Now, whats happened to all these people? where have the league fans gone?

Your figures are very much inflated as 21 K crowds at Carlaw FOR A SEMI FINAL was not the norm. In 1985 Kiwis vs Roos the crowds were 20K and 16K. The crowds on these occasions were packed in, including the bank and behind the posts. I cannot recall a club game being that fall. Perhaps up to 13 K for the fox final.

In saying that you are 100% correct. The club crowds were a lot bigger. RL club crowds were far bigger than RU club crowds and soccer (club soccer was strong then). The 'crowds' at BC Cup ganes these days are far less than what you used to get for under 19 games in Auckland - TRUE!

I hope that the ARL can at least bring some of the crowds back as the RL crowds now are bad. I admit that I do not get to as many games as I used to - work, family, other activities, availability of TV etc.
 

Jackal_old

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make the ticket prices cheaper and ill be there....at the moment spending like $30-$40 per game is beyond me...must be some of the most expensive tickets in the comp.
 

warriors4life_old

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The Warriors need to start winning consistently to get more fans in, the real supporters stick with them through and through but the borderline supporters will only turn up if the Warriors are winning.
 

da mad maori

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If you want to look at the situation realistically, then we have got a lot of winning to do before those "once were fans" return. And that goes for the "bit interested ones" as well. I think we have to be gratefull that there are around 6-8 thousand holding the fort. Winning two,-three,-four, or even five on the trot may up the numbers , but its when we start threatening the ladder, will the turn-style, start to rotate.
This entertainment thing wont attract anybody, but hopefully those who do turn up, can see a sign of appreciation, coming from within.
 

AmeriKiwi_old

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da mad maori said:
If you want to look at the situation realistically, then we have got a lot of winning to do before those "once were fans" return. And that goes for the "bit interested ones" as well. I think we have to be gratefull that there are around 6-8 thousand holding the fort. Winning two,-three,-four, or even five on the trot may up the numbers , but its when we start threatening the ladder, will the turn-style, start to rotate.
This entertainment thing wont attract anybody, but hopefully those who do turn up, can see a sign of appreciation, coming from within.

It`s a good start, at least... hopefully the Warriors players will respond to the effort by playing like they did last Saturday night every week!!
 

WgtnWarrior_old

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how about shifting just one home game a season to Wellington or another city - the games in christchurch and hamilton seem to attract alot of people. Not sure weather the numbers would be in favour profit wise but a one off game would pull 18 - 20K in wellington thats what we used to get in when the dogs played here.
 

Trotbags_old

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Without sounding like a broken record, the Warriors Mgmt needs to take a serious look at their marketing dept.

The season tickets this year show how poorly organised they are. I think it was SueB (?) who didn't get her tickets until the season was well under way. I didn't get mine until the week before kick off.

If you want to fill seats then, along with the players winning games, you also need to make it an exciting experience. The best entertainment this year has been the Westpac Helicopter landing on the field at halftime - pity the microphone wasn't working for the singer who got out of the chopper........ Last week had a couple of radio people having a high school type of race in the centre of the field - how is that entertaining?

If you look at a lot of the Aussie venues the whole atmosphere is more professional. Our before game and halftime entertainment is woeful. We need to add a bit more glamour and excitment to the whole game.

As a side thought, when a ball is kicked out into the crowd (penalty) and it is caught on the full - why can't the person who catches the ball keep it? What's a ball cost? $100? How many per game - 10 max? What great bit of publicity. I saw a young kid in the East stand last week catch one on the full (sign him up now John) - imagine him rocking up to school on Monday and telling all his mates about it - cheap marketing.

What about having 3 or 4 "meet the player" sessions each season - rather than the 1 they currently have - they could run for an hour at the end of a training session - my 9 year old loved meeting his heroes at one we attended.

The trouble is unless you read this forum or the warriors website then you don't find out what is on. The Warriors specialise in "stealth marketing" i.e. not telling anyone what's on and then wondering why no one turns up.

Hopefully the meeting DMM talked about earlier on in the thread will have an effect.
 

Jesbass_old

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The meeting has already had an effect, Trotbags. It created and nurtured a burgeoning relationship between the management and the fans.

As for your suggestions, the basic gist was covered to a minor extent in the meeting - entertainment, creating an atmosphere that fans enjoy, etc.

As to them specifically...

The catch the ball idea is brilliant, but I think (not sure) that the Warriors are prevented by the NRL from letting people take ownership of the ball. I suspect the club would get fined, sadly. Can anyone either confirm or deny this?

Meet the player sessions are, I believe, likely to be more numerous in the future. The management recognises that the majority of fans would rather meet their favourite player than save $10 at the gate.
 

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