Dallin Watene-Zelezniak in a Warriors jersey

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bruce

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Oh yeah....and we badly needed to replace Kens Meters..
Get a decent forward
I didn't realise he is almost a Mozzie, went over there at 5 years old. Even better schooling IMO.
Rather I hope he is coming here to prove he is worthy of his Grandfathers legacy.
He will be...guaranteed. There will be busloads coming up from Rotorua for the August match.
 

Beastmode

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This could be a good signing for us, I'm not sure. I do feel Dallin Watene-Zelezniak is quite overrated.

So I hope we aren't paying overs like usual, and I also hope he proves me wrong.

i noticed he gets SMasHED often when taking the hit ups on ball returns.

Maybe needs a bit more size without comprising speed, which we have yet to see on attack…
 
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i noticed he gets SMasHED often when taking the hit ups on ball returns.

Maybe needs a bit more size without comprising speed, which we have yet to see on attack…
Yes he does get mashed a bit hitting it up. I'd also like to see our forwards man up a little. Sometimes we don't see a forward taking a hit up until tackle 4. I know their tired, but to me that's unacceptable.
 
Yes he does get mashed a bit hitting it up. I'd also like to see our forwards man up a little. Sometimes we don't see a forward taking a hit up until tackle 4. I know their tired, but to me that's unacceptable.
yea i feel that waay too often. the forwards must think theyve done all the work and when our backs get shut down, no one in the forwards stands up to make some hard yards.

Dallin Watene-Zelezniak makes some pretty hearty carries though. Gets smashed at times but doesnt shy away from it. I like his addition to the team. Defends quite well too. its less of a liability having him there As opposed to our previous wingers. Hes solid considering he hasnt had the opportunities with space yet.
 

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yea i feel that waay too often. the forwards must think theyve done all the work and when our backs get shut down, no one in the forwards stands up to make some hard yards.

Dallin Watene-Zelezniak makes some pretty hearty carries though. Gets smashed at times but doesnt shy away from it. I like his addition to the team. Defends quite well too. its less of a liability having him there As opposed to our previous wingers. Hes solid considering he hasnt had the opportunities with space yet.
Agreed, you can't knock his heart. When our forward's don't step up until 4th, we deny ourselves the chance to get lateral on 4th, which is where many sides recover against us on what was otherwise a good defensive set. We need at least one forward to step up on 3rd so that we have some options on 4th, sometimes that will be another crash, but sometimes that will be a little more width, but at least the opposition won't be sure.
 
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In the end Ken and Fusitua were both getting smashed.

I think you are looking at a Warrior thing here...other teams know we have little variation on kick returns and come straight for a smashing.

I think Walsh can help here when he is more experienced for support and interplay with his wingers.

Also, as other say he takes it on the chin and keeps coming so no problem really, he will occaisionaly step a defender and we will see something different to what we have had before.
 
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So he hit the Flying Fish's top speed.

Makes him the third fastest winger the Warriors have had in one showing.

Fish hit 36.6 and was clearly the fastest Warriors winger in the modern era.

Fastest all time was Lee Oudenryn. Not measured per se, but he was rated the fastest player in Rugby league after beating Martin Offiah in a sprint race....clearly Offiah was pissing around in that event, he did not take Oudenryn seriously and got burned for it.

Here is Lee talking about that race.

 
What he does better than most players is get down into a drive phase in the beginning of his run so that he can build up to a higher top speed if he isn't tackled, which is also why he hits the line so hard and gets whacked on defense sometimes. The majority of players returning the ball on a distance of over 10m, run upright so they can see where they're going but that also means that they hit top speed earlier and therefore decelerate earlier on longer runs. This means that they can be run down by someone with similar speed who gets a full drive phase in without carrying a ball. It's also almost impossible to step during a drive phase, you have to arc your run to get around someone while in a lean during acceleration. Ado Carr will sometimes drop down into a drive phase again from an upright position on a line break which pays off in a higher top end speed down the field. Track speed vs footy speed.
 
So he hit the Flying Fish's top speed.

Makes him the third fastest winger the Warriors have had in one showing.

Fish hit 36.6 and was clearly the fastest Warriors winger in the modern era.

Fastest all time was Lee Oudenryn. Not measured per se, but he was rated the fastest player in Rugby league after beating Martin Offiah in a sprint race....clearly Offiah was pissing around in that event, he did not take Oudenryn seriously and got burned for it.

Here is Lee talking about that race.


I was working doors in the Cross the night before that race and Offiah rolled up to the club shitfaced at 5am. The 'fastest man in league' title didn't mean anything to him, he was living large. Even at his best Lee might've beaten him anyway.
 
Seems like a good dude too

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Yeah that was a nice in and away he put on Mulitano who showed him way too much sideline and got turned inside out.

Certainly is an impressive top speed he reached.

Dallin's never struck me as the length of the field speedster type in the Addo Carr or Jason Saab mode and most of his highlights dont indicate that (interstingly that Saab 35k that he reached was an intercept length of the field try) and can only specualate Dallin can reach top end speed quicker than most over that first 20m or so......maintaining over 80 may be a different story.

Anyway until we get them all lined up for a 100m dash its all speculation.

Nice to finally have wingers in the speed conversation tho.

Over Warriors history there would only be 2 players id bank on lets say in a GF, to win, last seconds, defending their own goal line, get an intercept 100 out.....no one in front of them, only possibility is to get run down......and that would be Glen Fisiahi and 2011 Shaun Johnson.
 
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Yeah that was a nice in and away he put on Mulitano who showed him way too much sideline and got turned inside out.

Certainly is an impressive top speed he reached.

Dallin's never struck me as the length of the field speedster type in the Addo Carr or Jason Saab mode and most of his highlights dont indicate that (interstingly that Saab 35k that he reached was an intercept length of the field try) and can only specualate Dallin can reach top end speed quicker than most over that first 20m or so......maintaining over 80 may be a different story.

Anyway until we get them all lined up for a 100m dash its all speculation.

Nice to finally have wingers in the speed conversation tho.

Over Warriors history there would only be 2 players id bank on lets say in a GF, to win, last seconds, defending their own goal line, get an intercept 100 out.....no one in front of them, only possibility is to get run down......and that would be Glen Fisiahi and 2011 Shaun Johnson.
2011 Shaun Johnson for sure! Over 40m was definitely the fastest
 
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Yeah that was a nice in and away he put on Mulitano who showed him way too much sideline and got turned inside out.

Certainly is an impressive top speed he reached.

Dallin's never struck me as the length of the field speedster type in the Addo Carr or Jason Saab mode and most of his highlights dont indicate that (interstingly that Saab 35k that he reached was an intercept length of the field try) and can only specualate Dallin can reach top end speed quicker than most over that first 20m or so......maintaining over 80 may be a different story.

Anyway until we get them all lined up for a 100m dash its all speculation.

Nice to finally have wingers in the speed conversation tho.

Over Warriors history there would only be 2 players id bank on lets say in a GF, to win, last seconds, defending their own goal line, get an intercept 100 out.....no one in front of them, only possibility is to get run down......and that would be Glen Fisiahi and 2011 Shaun Johnson.
The length of the field sprinter evidence is always sketchy with players who do not get many chances to give it a crack.

Lee Oudneryn springs to mind, never set the NRL alight with length of the field trys.

I know one thing though....Fish set his 36.6 Km in the open, vs the Roosters....the same game Johnson chased down Jennings.

Fish was foot to the floor on that run.

Dallin Watene-Zelezniak is certainly in the conversation. It may prove that being at the Dogs...a team threatening to break the NRL record for most nil scores in a game....has kept his light under a bushel.

Certainly seems to be the case with the other two Dog escapees who are proving much better players than people realised. the Storm got one...we got two of them.

I call that a win.
 
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