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eudebrito

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May 21, 2013
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Any idea what this is all about?

Morris' record speaks for itself and if SJs comments are anything to go by, the team like him a lot
for whatever reason seem to think roosters assistant coaches have fairy dust sprinkled on them - history says coaches that really make a difference and don't just rise and fall with their roster* - are exceedingly rare, so its probably a bad idea to knife a reasonable coach for an unknown.

* see Maguire at the rabbits v tigers, same coach, shit results, Paul Green without Thurston, Brad Arthur got a wooden spoon and then top 4 as his players got better, etc, etc.
 

snake77

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Jul 12, 2013
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A new coach typically takes on a team at the bottom of the ladder which either needs a rebuild. The way the Sharks are going it isn't a bad side to start with for Fitzgibbon. Likely just needs to move on a few of the older guys to get in a few new players.
 

wizards rage

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Apr 18, 2016
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A new coach typically takes on a team at the bottom of the ladder which either needs a rebuild. The way the Sharks are going it isn't a bad side to start with for Fitzgibbon. Likely just needs to move on a few of the older guys to get in a few new players.
Hmmm... got more to lose than gain for the Sharks by appointing an unproven head coach to replace a consistent top 8 coach.

Hope they know what they are doing as there is the potential for them to drop to a bottom 8 team of it turns to custard.
 

matiunz

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Jul 15, 2013
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Let's face it his heart was always in Auckland, I think we've all learned that lesson now. Something's telling me it's time to put it all behind us and try again, welcome home Shaun, it's still our year and you'll always be our Princess.

So where's he going @Rick, Melbourne?
They said on Triple M over the weekend he’s asking for $800k a season which is putting most clubs off
 

eudebrito

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They said on Triple M over the weekend he’s asking for $800k a season which is putting most clubs off
He's not going to be in a hurry to rush back and put his Achilles to test now is he. How many spry looking games would he need to play before a team ponies up - 10? 6? 2? Foran got a stupid contract from the bulldogs after like 3 healthy games with us.
 

Rick O'Shay

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May 1, 2013
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New Plymouth
Let's face it his heart was always in Auckland, I think we've all learned that lesson now. Something's telling me it's time to put it all behind us and try again, welcome home Shaun, it's still our year and you'll always be our Princess.

So where's he going @Rick, Melbourne?
Think Shaun's done and dusted here although you never say never, a la Benji. Considering how much game time he hasn't had with the Sharks due to injuries I would expect his value to have dropped considerably. Melbourne doing ok without him.

Or did you mean Morris?
 
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mrblonde

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Apr 14, 2012
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If I was the Warriors, given the past relationship with Shaun and his manager, I'd wait until he approached us. Then I'd happily sit down and discuss terms. But I wouldn't be madly chasing him.
 

mrblonde

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Apr 14, 2012
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Is this the Shark's own "Shuan Johnson" moment: Do something that will piss your player/coach off, act surprised when the player/coach gets pissed off and not have any decent contigency plans if the player/coach quits.

It might all work it in the end, but this has been handled really badly.
 
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wizards rage

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Apr 18, 2016
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Let’s put some stats to the Shaun Johnson debate:

Statistically the Warriors averaged 10.75th place on the ladders for Shaun Johnson’s 8 seasons. Since he left we have averaged 11.5th place on the ladder. Negligible difference.

On a risk/ benefit analysis of challenging Shaun Johnson to up his game, after which he decided to leave, the downside has been immaterial. We were not contenders with him here and we are not since he left. The upside if he responded could have been huge. An Shaun Johnson who stepped up and DID WHAT WAS NEEDED was someone we could have built the team around.

Based on this alone it was worth taking the risk of challenging him to step up and the club did the right thing, even when he left.
 

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