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Cronulla-Sutherland Sharks

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A thread for all general discussion about the Cronulla-Sutherland Sharks that doesn't fit into existing threads such as the NRL Salary Cap, Naughty Chair, Warriors team lists, game day and post match threads etc.

This can include past or present news and views, match tactics, recruitment strategy etc...
 
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This could go in a number of places. The Naughty Chair, revisit the peptides thread, or how it affects Johnson.

Saw reports a few weeks ago about Flanagan's contract and the club could try and pin some of the cap dramas and use the ASADA investigation against him.

Rugby League: Former Warriors star Shaun Johnson's new club rocked by investigation into coach


By: David Skipwith
Sports writer
david.skipwith@nzherald.co.nz@dskipwithNZH


Cronulla coach Shane Flanagan played a central role in luring Shaun Johnson across to the Sydney NRL club, but new evidence relating to the Sharks mentor's 2014 peptide ban has put his job under threat.

Johnson could unexpectedly find himself playing under a new coach next season after the former Warriors halfback recently signed a three-year deal to join Flanagan's star-studded Sharks squad.

The Kiwi international's move to Cronulla comes while the club is being investigated by the NRL after Sharks management decided to report themselves over potential salary cap breaches dating back to 2015.

The NRL's integrity unit have examined mobile phone records, staff computers and the club's internet server, with details coming to light of a phony invoice scam and a suspect bank loan which the Daily Telegraph reports was used to pay at least one player.

Through the course of that investigation, the Daily Telegraph reports, the integrity unit have questioned Flanagan, after uncovering emails indicating he had been in contact with Cronulla officials during his 12-month suspension.

As part of his ban relating to the peptide scandal, the NRL declared he was not allowed to have any contact with players or club staff.



Flanagan served a one-year ban in 2014 over his involvement in the Sharks peptide scandal that rocked the NRL. Photo / Photosport.

But according to the Daily Telegraph, an email and phone message trail reveal Flanagan had been communicating with senior staff during his suspension, putting plans in place for when he was allowed to return to the head coaching job in 2015.

Recruitment matters regarding players coming off contract, welfare and injury issues are reported to be among the topics discussed.

Despite the salary cap investigation, Johnson's move to Cronulla did not raise eyebrows, as the shock departure of Valentine Holmes to the NFL provided the Sharks' 2019 salary cap with a significant boost.

Last week, Johnson detailed how he had enjoyed open discussions with Flanagan relating to the club's current roster, which had encouraged him to accept the Sharks' offer, after he was granted a release from the Warriors a fortnight ago.

"You want to go somewhere and know what is going on with the squad, and Flanno [Shane Flanagan] was unreal in letting me know the exact status of every player," Johnson told the Daily Telegraph.

"Like, when they're signed until and what they might be thinking. And I was a part of that discussion the first day I came over and that was really big for me.

"I hadn't had a conversation like that at the Warriors for the last few years. I'd been left out of those conversations.

"So to come here and be brought in and told 'you're going to be in a key position for us, you need to know what is going on around you', I was like 'ahh — thank you'."



Johnson enjoyed open talks with Flanagan relating to Cronulla's current playing roster. Photo / Getty Images.

When asked about the latest dramas, Flanagan declined to comment to the Daily Telegraph but reportedly denied he had initiated any of the conversations under question.

It's understood Cronulla management are concerned the NRL may serve Flanagan with another suspension, issue the club with a heavy fine, or do both and hit the Sharks with a double whammy.

At the time of Flanagan's 2014 ban, the Sharks were fortunate to have $400,000 of their million dollar fine suspended by the NRL. The Daily Telegraph suggests the latest developments could potentially see the club forced to pay that amount.

Sharks management reportedly claim they are unaware of where the investigation into Flanagan stands.

However, the matter is understood to have forced the club to hold off on extending Flanagan's contract beyond next season.

The Daily Telegraph reports the NRL are expected to serve Flanagan with a penalty next week.

The investigation into Flanagan is being handled separate to the salary cap issues, which are not expected to be resolved until the new year.

It remains to be seen what impact this saga has on Johnson's fresh start after eight seasons at the Warriors.

Earlier this month, Flanagan raved about the club's newest signing and the value Johnson will add to the Sharks squad.

"To recruit a current test half at this time of year is a massive boost to our club, the playing group, our members and fans," said Flanagan.

"Shaun's football talent is going to be a huge plus for our team and his experience will undoubtedly help with the development of our younger players.

"Players like Jayden [Brailey], Kyle [Flanagan] and Blayke [Brailey] are some who can only benefit from having Shaun in our team.

"And added to all of that, he has outstanding character, has done some great work in the community in New Zealand and he will also be an asset to the club off the field as well."

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12175482
 
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I'll bet he hasn't had conversations like these at the Warriors either 'Hey coach, will I get my 'booster' shot before you get suspended again or after?'
 
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Had contact with the club while suspended. That was reported during the time wasn't it, just they couldn't prove it.

He was supposed to come back and understand his duty of care for his players. Most likely give the officials what they need to hear.

The cap cheating after the ASADA scandal was problem them want to catch up/get success so people forget about the previous scandal.

They were luck having part of the fine suspended with their financial issue.
 
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Making a sweeping generalisation here:

I find that Forum supporters of the Australian sides react differently to Warriors fans over misconduct by their clubs.

If it were the Warriors caught Cap cheating and Drug cheating, the fans of the Warriors are inclined to be outraged and aim that anger fairly and squarely at their club.

The other lot seem to bury their heads in the sand, take on a siege mentality, deflect blame to the accusers (thinking of forums I've read during the NRLs most notorious cheating episodes).

May that never change.

I couldn't abide being part of a group that lies to itself with such ignorance and small minded entitlement.

#Quite happy in my tower being morally superior thanks very much.
 
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What’s the bet SJ uses this as an out after a year to take up that Roosters deal?

Just when you thought the Sharks couldn’t get any scummier...
 
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Geez the Sharkies love a drama don’t they??
 
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Making a sweeping generalisation here:

I find that Forum supporters of the Australian sides react differently to Warriors fans over misconduct by their clubs.

If it were the Warriors caught Cap cheating and Drug cheating, the fans of the Warriors are inclined to be outraged and aim that anger fairly and squarely at their club.

The other lot seem to bury their heads in the sand, take on a siege mentality, deflect blame to the accusers (thinking of forums I've read during the NRLs most notorious cheating episodes).

May that never change.

I couldn't abide being part of a group that lies to itself with such ignorance and small minded entitlement.

#Quite happy in my tower being morally superior thanks very much.
Could be because we are one of the only clubs who haven't actually won anything, so there's nothing to get protective over.

Or just that they're Aussies and we are Kiwis haha
 
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"You want to go somewhere and know what is going on with the squad, and Flanno [Shane Flanagan] was unreal in letting me know the exact status of every player," Johnson told the Daily Telegraph.]
HAHAHAHA

That is fucking GOLD.

I bet he forgot to mention they were all juiced up!!
 
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HAHAHAHA

That is fucking GOLD.

I bet he forgot to mention they were all juiced up!!
Really open about the playing roster, signing etc. Oops I might be out the door myself though.

It would be funny if he uses the amount of coaches the Warriors had and his coach gets the boot before the season.
 
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Really open about the playing roster, signing etc. Oops I might be out the door myself though.

It would be funny if he uses the amount of coaches the Warriors had and his coach gets the boot before the season.
What if the next one doesn’t like him?!?! :eek::eek::eek:
 
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I'll be very amazed if anything comes of it. Just like the Sharks Salary Cap investigation that is reviewing issues from 2015 and 2017. Surprise surprise the Premiership team of 2016 has already been cleared :rolleyes:...
 
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I'll be very amazed if anything comes of it. Just like the Sharks Salary Cap investigation that is reviewing issues from 2015 and 2017. Surprise surprise the Premiership team of 2016 has already been cleared :rolleyes:...
I agree, NRL are too weak to do anything. Its why clubs blatantly cheat, there is very little consequence.

Cronulla on the ropes financially will mean the NRL will be too scared to do anything to hurt them.
 
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It's funny they have this great rivalry with the Storm...

but they both the worst boundary pushing, whingeing cheats of all clubs.
 
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