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NRL 2016 - Rnd 24 - Cowboys vs Warriors Gameday Chatter
Cowboys v Warriors: Schick preview
Thu 18 Aug, 2016, 12:00pm
By Steven Ross‌, North Queensland Correspondent , NRL.com
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Schick Hydro Preview: North Queensland Cowboys v New Zealand Warriors
1300SMILES Stadium
Saturday, 7.30pm


Which Cowboys side will show up this week? And for that matter, which Warriors team will we see?

Both teams were embarrassed last week in defeats to the Roosters and Rabbitohs respectively, and it is desperation stakes for both.

Coach Paul Green and his players are trying to keep a lid on the topic, but the infamous road woes that have plagued North Queensland since entering the competition are officially back, and they pose a massive threat to a side that isn't guaranteed to host even one home final. The Cowboys hold a sparkling 9-1 record at home, while that number is 3-8 away from 1300SMILES Stadium. And one of those three wins was when the Bunnies took a home fixture to Cowboy heartland.

Meanwhile, the Kiwis – masters of turbulent form – have risen to the occasion the last two times they have played in Townsville and don't hold as poor an away record as some may imagine. Make no mistake, Saturday night could be anything.

The home side have named a couple of changes, with Antonio Winterstein returning for Javid Bowen and Coen Hess in for John Asiata who will play Intrust Super Cup for the sake of match fitness.

New Zealand will bring in Bunty Afoa and James Gavet, while Tui Lolohea drops back to the Intrust Super Premiership.

Watch out Cowboys: The most certain thing about this game is how the Warriors will approach their defence. The blueprint has been handed to them on a silver platter thanks to the Tigers and Roosters, with Thurston looking as uncomfortable these past two weeks as we have seen him in recent memory. Cowboys fans are praying they have figured out how to combat inversed defensive lines that have troubled them recently, but the indication was actually there early in the season when Parramatta scored two length-of-the-field tries off jamming defence which cramped both Cowboys halves – forcing Thurston to throw an intercept and Morgan to knock on in the face of a rushing Michael Jennings.

Watch out Warriors: We asked Green earlier in the week whether there have been any signs of form and confidence returning, but the Cowboys mentor gave us nothing. While they are calm on the exterior, you get the sense North Queensland – fanbase included – is tense and desperately seeking a result. They have not explicitly said it but when Green mentions 'being prepared to fight to get that form back' and Thurston says the players' processing of information from the coaching staff is the reason for the form slump, logic says that equates to complacency. If the premiers are serious about going back-to-back then their desperation level will be at a season-best level on Saturday. While the Cowboys' structures even in yardage sets are all at sea, desperate play means desperate charges and big defence, so the New Zealand pack needs to be ready.

Key match-up: Johnathan Thurston v Shaun Johnson. This matchup is pretty clear-cut and should decide the winner of the game. Thurston is the Cowboys' chief and is most responsible for his side's change of fortunes, while Johnson's individual magic has set the tone for New Zealand's play style for over half a decade.

Thurston is the on-field coach: he is the leader, the organiser and the team's hardest worker, and we are backing him to be smart enough to have figured out how to exploit rushing defences to some extent come Saturday.

Shaun Johnson is still the sport's most dangerous ball runner whose progression as a playmaker has been impressive since the early rounds. The possibilities are endless on every single touch, and the Cowboys' edges – which are not playing strong defensively – need to be talking this week. Johnson leads the Telstra Premiership in line-break assists with 23 (five ahead of Thurston), while is just two try assists from the league's best (Ben Hunt) and one behind Thurston.

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The history: Played 35; Cowboys 17, Warriors 18. Both sides have split the last four meetings, with each team stealing one game on the road. As far as a contest goes, these games are either rocks or diamonds, with margins of 40, 2, 4, 4 and 34 over the past five games.

What are the odds: North Queensland start as odds-on favourite with Sportsbet but slightly more money has come in for the Warriors. The draw is well supported but the Warriors by 13+ is the best backed in margin-betting.

Match officials: Referee: Ashley Klein. Assistant Referee: Adam Gee. Touch Judges: Brett Suttor and Nick Morel. Senior Review Official: Bernard Sutton.

Televised: Fox Sports 1 – Live coverage from 7:30pm. Sky Sport 2 9:30pm NZST

The way we see it: Had Paul Green given us some cause for optimism when asked about a potential form turnaround, we would have tipped the home side. However, we don't think it is returning this week. The Warriors have been punching above their weight in recent Townsville games, so we will tip them to win by 7 points.

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STEEDEN

1st Grade Fringe
Nov 7, 2014
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Auckland
Its now or never for the season really, time to see how bad our team really want this.
Win this game and we should be playing finals footy in September.
Lose, and it will be the old "we need this team to beat that team" situation again.
We can beat the Cowboys tonight , but that all depends on which Warriors team is going to turn up.
To win , our forwards just need to man up and dominate and Thurston needs to be shut down. (easier said than done )
Anyhow I hope we win well tonight.
Go the Warriors!!!
 
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Duh herro

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Jun 21, 2015
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Chance of Victory -

Cowboys are higher than us on the table, were in Townsville and JT is playing.

Chance of Victory - Pretty damn high.

Score - Warriors 40 - Cowboys 10*


*No, i'm Not high. Are chances are significantly improved now that lolo is out.

On a more serious note, our forwards need to dominate and Maumalo needs to know that he won't die if he catches the ball.
Also Shaun needs to run the Ball, full stop no questions asked.
Fusitua would play well out of FB so my hopes are high.
Also if we beat the Cows, does anyone know what we have to do to make the 8?
 

Bluecat again

1st Grade Fringe
Sep 30, 2012
598
Putting it "all in" on the Warriors with the bookie tonight. Because if we don't win tonight we miss the eight and there is really no point saving it to put on another team in the finals
Leave nothing out there boys. Win tonight or book a long end of September holiday
 

diehard

1st Grade Fringe
Jan 27, 2016
1,787
JT is frustrated. Cowboys are tired. They're on a three game losing streak. No problem for the Warriors.
 

Draw and Pass

Warriors Bench Player
Mar 2, 2016
80
Chance of Victory -

Also if we beat the Cows, does anyone know what we have to do to make the 8?

Since the Panthers won last night, there is basically only one spot left up for grabs and it's still a 3 way race for that spot between us, the tigers and titans. Ideally, we need to win all 3 games and titans need to lose at least one.
 

Afakasi247

1st Grade Fringe
Mar 5, 2014
2,757
Don't know if anyone is a member of the Warriors Supporter page on FB, but Jazz's Mum is is a regular poster and has mentioned Jazz is playing ISP with Tui today, Roache will start and Ata is debuting.

Take that as you will - let the fireworks begin o_O
 

KiwiZ

NSW Cup Player
Mar 5, 2016
96
To make the 8
Win our next 3 games and hope the Titans will lose at least 1 by the end of the season.

If we lose tonight we need the Titans to lose their next two (which is Cowboys and panthers)

If we can only win one more game out of the rest of the season we need to have the Knights beat them and us atleast win one more (hoping the tigers lose their next 2)

These are our only chances to making the 8 if we are real contenders we will do the first option but my picks is the 2nd one will be how we do it.

Ps- Special thanks to the Sharks for having the Titans on an uneven number of points!
 

davewjnz

1st Grade Fringe
Mar 10, 2013
593
Auckland
Yeah our formula is simple 3 games for 3 wins = 30 points
Our best chance is for Titans to drop a game leaving them on 29 points, 3 wins will leave them on 31 points for 7th
That means Panthers would have lost vs Titans next week.
But a win vs Manly (their last game) will leave Panthers on 30 points equal with the Warriors for 8th spot
Then its points for / against which could see us drop out.
So for next weeks games we need a Panthers win.
In the meantime 3 games for 3 wins, piling on the points is our focus.

Yep lose today then we need the Abacus..

Fark why do we always do shit the hard way.
 
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jsmooove

1st Grade Fringe
May 18, 2012
1,465
ive had my hopes far too many times and burnt at this time of the season. watching the tigers last night gave me that feeling that it was how we were going to play. its just a coping mechanism i have. If we win ill be celebrating for days!
 

mrblonde

Warriors 1st Grader
Apr 14, 2012
3,787
Auckland
The NRL's Ladder Predictor's on the blink, so I can't work it out but NRL360 the comment was 30 should be safe, 28 you're relying on a pretty good PD.
 

Afakasi247

1st Grade Fringe
Mar 5, 2014
2,757
Don't know if anyone is a member of the Warriors Supporter page on FB, but Jazz's Mum is is a regular poster and has mentioned Jazz is playing ISP with Tui today, Roache will start and Ata is debuting.

Take that as you will - let the fireworks begin o_O
..Jono Wright not named in the ISP team either!
 
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