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STRIDER_old

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Could you guys name a weaker backrow in the NRL than this one?

11)Guttenbeil
12)Koopu
13)Anderson
 

Big Fobsta_old

Guest
Warriors would do better in NFL, with an Offensive and Defensive Team.

Defensive -
11)Guttenbeil
12)Koopu
13)Anderson

Offensive -
11)Villasanti
12)Lauaki
13)Faumuina
 

da mad maori

Guest
STRIDER, explain. Wairangi and Anderson weak. Doubt it mate.
 

KeepingTheFaith_old

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If Anderson can find the form and consistency he showed with the Kiwis in the Tri-Series then I'd definately have him ahead of most locks. Koopu has been the Warriors most consistent for a couple of years now and even here in Australia some experts have said he's an underrated player who would be thought of a lot more highly if he played for a Sydney team.

As for Guttenbeil he had a terrible start to 2005 but continued to improve and had some very good performances towards the back end. I'm very interested to see how he starts this year. From all the reports I've heard Luck was very impressive and will be breathing down the necks of the starting backrowers. If Guttenbeil doesn't fire from round 1 I don't think he's going to be there for long. We can't afford any slow starters this year.
 

Ronnie_7_old

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Mate that isn't a weak backrow. Look at the form that Louis showed in the Tri-Nations it was gold. Then Koopu like KTF said he has been consistent, he's a solid performer. As for Guttenbiel he may have had a 'not the best ever season' last year but there are worse players than him.
 

Iafeta_old

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STRIDER said:
Could you guys name a weaker backrow in the NRL than this one?

11)Guttenbeil
12)Koopu
13)Anderson

Please explain?

All three of them are test players for the current Tri Nations champions.

Awen had a poor start to 2005, had a really good end to it and got player's player on a few occaisions particularly against Brisbane at home in a memorable coup de triumph, Koopu was the 2004 player of the year and again had a consistent 2006, and Anderson just went from strength to strength and was one of the Kiwis best in the Tri Nations. So much so, in a sector (back row) where the Kiwis are very strong, his starting place is under no threat.

It could be worse. Hame Lauaki starting springs to mind. Unfulfilled misguided and unjustified potential there. These three are consistent, will tackle their hearts out, and contribute valuably to the team collective. I'm more than happy with that backrow. Be happier with Awen perhaps coming off the bench and Sione locking the scrum with a specialist five eighth to add a bit more ball skill (although, IMO Awen Guttenbeil played the best game of any backrower in 2005 for NZ "A" versus the Australian Presidents XIII in the Sydney test curtain raiser, absolutely unbelievable that day off loading left right and centre opening up line breaks all over the shop).
 

JonB_old

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STRIDER said:
Could you guys name a weaker backrow in the NRL than this one?

11)Guttenbeil
12)Koopu
13)Anderson

Maybe the most similar to each other in terms of style in the NRL. It would be strong with an offloader in there.
 

STRIDER_old

Guest
To be truthful I think we will struggle to win our share of games with these guys as our second row.

Louis Anderson has got tons of heart and that shows in the way he plays. But Koopu doesnt really effect games dynamicly and Guttenbeil is so uneffective as a second rower now.

Im not knocking guys and I know some of you would compare the warriors to the roosters backrow of hard workers but I promise you the Rooster backrow of hard workers is still a hell of alot more dynamic than ours.

I think this back Row is going to struggle BIG TIME!!
 

Iafeta_old

Guest
They won't struggle, they never do. They hold their own and then some in all games they play.

They may not be game breakers, but damn, I'm thinking thats our halves and backlines responsiblity. I'd like the forwards clear focus to go forward, ableit with a little bit of skill - IE short passes before the line, and looking for the possibility of a clean and safe offload, but inevitably once that space is created by the forward pack, including the back row, then the backline is responsible for making something of it.

We certainly didn't lose games in the forwards last year. We lost it in discipline, lack of composure, lack of depth and width utilisation to make space and time for our outside men to beat their opponents.

I'm stoked with the back row we have.
 

2big2strong_old

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Koopu is probably our most solid, consistent player behind price and wiki. always backing up when someone makes a break. Guttenbiel stinks now, he shoulda gone to les catalan's when they threw that money at him. Anderson is safe, sometimes outstanding, sometimes not. what about Vatuvei in the back row and vuna on his wing? he came into the back row for about 10 minutes in the trinations and was punishing in defence and strong running
 

warriors4life_old

Guest
that's a bit harsh to louis, awen and wairangi, as on their day they are in the top echelon.
 

Wiki_old

Guest
2black2strong said:
Koopu is probably our most solid, consistent player behind price and wiki. always backing up when someone makes a break. Guttenbiel stinks now, he shoulda gone to les catalan's when they threw that money at him. Anderson is safe, sometimes outstanding, sometimes not. what about Vatuvei in the back row and vuna on his wing? he came into the back row for about 10 minutes in the trinations and was punishing in defence and strong running

Thats not a very stupid comment. Quite interesting actually.

Damn, we should have a rep from NZWARRIORS.COM at the Warriors coaches meetings haha.
 

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