
bruce
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Climate change
Some people deny it at all.
Some more enlightened ones admit it but say it is not man made so nothing we do can change it.
However, the ones that really know, because it is a basic physics equation, are the oil companies,
read this:
In the 1980s, oil companies like Exxon and Shell carried out internal assessments of the carbon dioxide released by fossil fuels, and forecast the planetary consequences of these emissions. In 1982, for example, Exxon predicted that by about 2060, CO2 levels would reach around 560 parts per million – double the preindustrial level – and that this would push the planet’s average temperatures up by about 2°C over then-current levels (and even more compared to pre-industrial levels).
www.theguardian.com
Now about this time, in my job I noticed things that were clearly related to a changing climate. I spoke with colleagues who said they had found the same, but didn't speak widely about it because nobody understood or was interested.
Some years later, just by chance I discussed it with my mother, a churchgoer (I wasn't), and another person I was doing business with. He was also a god botherer, Both said they didn't accept climate change.
They were not in the same religions so I could only guess the oil companies, being mainly Merkin, played the game of spreading disinformation amongst the most gullible people first e.g. fundamentalist Christians. Just as an aside I think the Catholic Church still denies Priests screw young boys, but I digress.
Many years later I read this book:
It was a scary description of what he knew about collapsed societies from Polynesia to other parts of the world. The scariest one was about Greenland, which was related to naturally occurring climate change. To make it simple, most people didn't die in their sleep, or quietly starve to death, violence and cannibalism had become rife.
Here is the scary bit to me. The controversial ecologist David Suzuki claimed about 25 years ago that in his opinion the world would not last another 30 years. If you ask anybody in Greece or California they would not argue.
Also about that time, and I forget who made the prediction, but it was that most people at that time didn't know about climate change, or even care.
The prediction said politicians would ignore it, until the reality was apparent, by which time it would be too late to save the planet.
In 2014 a climatologist said if Arctic ocean floor methane started reaching the surface then "we're fucked".
Climatologists have spent decades politely warning that we are cooking our planet, but now one has decided to stop sugar coating it. Professor Jason Box of the Geological Survey of Denmark and Greenland tweeted “If even a small fraction of Arctic sea floor carbon is released to the atmosphere, we're fucked.”
www.iflscience.com
Well ladies and jellybeans, that is happening, so maybe we are farked.
Some people deny it at all.
Some more enlightened ones admit it but say it is not man made so nothing we do can change it.
However, the ones that really know, because it is a basic physics equation, are the oil companies,
read this:
In the 1980s, oil companies like Exxon and Shell carried out internal assessments of the carbon dioxide released by fossil fuels, and forecast the planetary consequences of these emissions. In 1982, for example, Exxon predicted that by about 2060, CO2 levels would reach around 560 parts per million – double the preindustrial level – and that this would push the planet’s average temperatures up by about 2°C over then-current levels (and even more compared to pre-industrial levels).

Shell and Exxon's secret 1980s climate change warnings | Benjamin Franta
Benjamin Franta: Newly found documents from the 1980s show that fossil fuel companies privately predicted the global damage that would be caused by their products.
Now about this time, in my job I noticed things that were clearly related to a changing climate. I spoke with colleagues who said they had found the same, but didn't speak widely about it because nobody understood or was interested.
Some years later, just by chance I discussed it with my mother, a churchgoer (I wasn't), and another person I was doing business with. He was also a god botherer, Both said they didn't accept climate change.
They were not in the same religions so I could only guess the oil companies, being mainly Merkin, played the game of spreading disinformation amongst the most gullible people first e.g. fundamentalist Christians. Just as an aside I think the Catholic Church still denies Priests screw young boys, but I digress.
Many years later I read this book:
It was a scary description of what he knew about collapsed societies from Polynesia to other parts of the world. The scariest one was about Greenland, which was related to naturally occurring climate change. To make it simple, most people didn't die in their sleep, or quietly starve to death, violence and cannibalism had become rife.
Here is the scary bit to me. The controversial ecologist David Suzuki claimed about 25 years ago that in his opinion the world would not last another 30 years. If you ask anybody in Greece or California they would not argue.
Also about that time, and I forget who made the prediction, but it was that most people at that time didn't know about climate change, or even care.
The prediction said politicians would ignore it, until the reality was apparent, by which time it would be too late to save the planet.
In 2014 a climatologist said if Arctic ocean floor methane started reaching the surface then "we're fucked".
Climatologists have spent decades politely warning that we are cooking our planet, but now one has decided to stop sugar coating it. Professor Jason Box of the Geological Survey of Denmark and Greenland tweeted “If even a small fraction of Arctic sea floor carbon is released to the atmosphere, we're fucked.”

Climatologist Says Arctic Carbon Release Could Mean “We're Fucked”
Climatologists have spent decades politely warning that we are cooking our planet, but now one has decided to stop sugar coating it. Professor Jason Box of
Well ladies and jellybeans, that is happening, so maybe we are farked.