General Cleary. Good Coach.

da mad maori

Guest
Had the previledge of sitting with Wayne and John hart in the Crown Plaza.
John says Ivan is a very good coach, or is showing signs of developing into the games best. He has the respect of the whole squad, and those around him.
That in my books is a positive.
I also just love the attitude of Wayne. Had my thoughts about him being the "fans man", but that has been put to bed. Talks to you as an equal, and not down to you.[like someone else]
Then theres the Mad Butcher. Tireless worker, who goes out of his way for anybody.
Now that is an awesome trio to be around, and I thank them for involving me in their circle.
 

ozbash_old

Guest
onya mate.
i think cleary must be a good coach, his roosters prem league team cleaned up.

his measure will be how he copes with the situation/s that have been handed to him by micky watson.


he has to cope with shit he shouldnt have to cope with in his debut year as head coach and if he gets through it ok then i think ivan could go all the way.

john hart ? should piss off back where he came from, i believe him and mick were buddies.

wayne the brayne ? time will tell but so far so good.
 

Skinner_old

Guest
Agree with the old kiwi on this one - I was well pleased when Ivan
took out the PL Premiership with the Roosters and I thought he showed
a lot of coaching maturity (although not forgetting some of the awesome
coaching ability that was standing behind him).

I, like most folks I guess, am reserving judgement on his success (or
otherwise) at the Warriors but I do sincerely hope he does well because
he is a very nice guy and deserves to do well.

John Hart, on the other hand, I would not trust as far as I could kick.
I believe he had a major hand in the recent debacle and should not be
around.

As oz says, the Jury is still out on Wayne, but it's so far, so good.

Cheers
Skinner
 

Northern_Union

Guest
Ditto on everything Skinner and Old Kiwi say!

On John Hart....he's from the evil empire and should go back there, we have stacks of people within league circles that can do his job just as well if not better.
 

Iafeta_old

Guest
Say what?

He's from the evil empire? What, a successful powerhouse called rugby union?

Reality check people - Wayne Scurrah has just come from an entirely different industry, John Hart is no different. I've moved within industries, and adapted, and succeeded no problems. I've got experience, and my first start, in journalism. I'm now a Transport Manager doing a University Degree in Business Management. People change, rugby league management is no different. As long as you can conceptualise, and have a good understanding of ethics you can cross-reference yourself into other industries.

If John Hart's the best man for the job, so be it. If Jock Hobbs was the best man for the job, so be it. If Billy Ray Cyrus was the best man for the job, so be it. The role in management is not to take passes, or punt footballs, its about growing the brand, achieving success on and off the field through other people and completely a happy cycle of stakeholders. Welcome to management, 101.

For the record, my ultimate goal, and one I'm deadset doing everything possible to achieve in life is to become CEO of the Warriors. I have very little in the way of top grade on field experience, but I hope my successes elsewhere and the skills I have make up for that. One day. And I hope, if I'm successful and do get it, I'm not railroaded out of it because I haven't played enough top level footy.
 

AmeriKiwi_old

Guest
I`ve had a hunch all along that Cleary will be a great coach for the Warriors and it`s nice to hear it from the top, courtesy of DMM. The Warriors stepped out onto the field as a completely different team the other night than I`d seen in the 1st two games... confident, physical, raring and ready to GO, and that has to have something to do with the coaching staff. I`m willing to bet the Warriors will soon rank amongst the top NRL teams, if not during the building stages this year, then next year.
 

David James_old

Guest
Speak of the Devil I saw Wayne Scurrah in the Vero Tower foyer today at 2pm today.

I swear this place is a great venue to bump into Warriors management/coaches!
 

Iafeta_old

Guest
I look forward to the made up account reply of ... it was not cracker, it was p00 sandwich, and it was not a friend I was joking with, but a brother you internet hero who did not have the nutcrackers to give it to me baby one more time...
 

Wiki_old

Guest
Iafeta said:
Say what?

He's from the evil empire? What, a successful powerhouse called rugby union?

Reality check people - Wayne Scurrah has just come from an entirely different industry, John Hart is no different. I've moved within industries, and adapted, and succeeded no problems. I've got experience, and my first start, in journalism. I'm now a Transport Manager doing a University Degree in Business Management. People change, rugby league management is no different. As long as you can conceptualise, and have a good understanding of ethics you can cross-reference yourself into other industries.

If John Hart's the best man for the job, so be it. If Jock Hobbs was the best man for the job, so be it. If Billy Ray Cyrus was the best man for the job, so be it. The role in management is not to take passes, or punt footballs, its about growing the brand, achieving success on and off the field through other people and completely a happy cycle of stakeholders. Welcome to management, 101.

For the record, my ultimate goal, and one I'm deadset doing everything possible to achieve in life is to become CEO of the Warriors. I have very little in the way of top grade on field experience, but I hope my successes elsewhere and the skills I have make up for that. One day. And I hope, if I'm successful and do get it, I'm not railroaded out of it because I haven't played enough top level footy.

When I buy the team, submit your application. I will consider it seriously.

:)
 

Blake_old

Guest
da mad maori said:
Had the previledge of sitting with Wayne and John hart in the Crown Plaza.
John says Ivan is a very good coach, or is showing signs of developing into the games best. He has the respect of the whole squad, and those around him.
That in my books is a positive.
I also just love the attitude of Wayne. Had my thoughts about him being the "fans man", but that has been put to bed. Talks to you as an equal, and not down to you.[like someone else]
Then theres the Mad Butcher. Tireless worker, who goes out of his way for anybody.
Now that is an awesome trio to be around, and I thank them for involving me in their circle.

Were you expecting him to say anything other than Cleary was a good coach? AK: Do his comments reaffirm your belief Cleary may have some talent for this coaching gig? If so why when Hart is hardly impartial?
 

da mad maori

Guest
Surely Wiki, John Hart would know a bit about coaching, and what makes a good coach. At first
I didnt' go with Ivan as being our coach, but after three games, I'm starting to like what I see.
Harts comment didnt sway me, one little bit. If you're fortunate to be as close to the team as I was, then you will see a circle of respect, between the players, coach, and management. Thats a heck of a lot different, from the past.
 

David James_old

Guest
Iafeta said:
I look forward to the made up account reply of ... it was not cracker, it was p00 sandwich, and it was not a friend I was joking with, but a brother you internet hero who did not have the nutcrackers to give it to me baby one more time...


Lol!

This time I did not communicate with the person at all.

Therefore I see no reason an account would be made to reply.

And Iafeta, if you didn't think it was Mick, ask Mosh, he has a fair idea as to who it was. :roll:
 

big taniwha styles_old

Guest
I thinks its too early to tell if Cleary is a top class coach, however as a player I think his role in the team was underestimated. In my opinion he and Campion were alot to do with the Warriors success, not so much with there individual performances but with there work ethic, composure and professionalism rubbing off on the younger more flamboyant players. I think he has earned his shot at coaching the Warriors and hope he can guide and control them as well as a coach as he could as a player.
 

PHANTOM MENACE_old

Guest
I was listening to radiosport today and they had Luck and Price on and 1 caller asked about the difference between Kemp and Clearey. Price said that Kemp had his heart on his sleeve while ZIvan is more relaxed. He sadi that Ivan concentrates on the basics and is not real technical. Luck said that when he was with the Cowboys and Tim Sheens was coach if he was 2nd row and wasnt 20 metres in from the sideline with the inside centre beside him then he was in trouble and would get rarked up after the game, while Price said that if the pass is on Ivan says throw it or if the are on there own goal line and have an overlap then go for it.

I like the encouragement Ivan is bringing with the players having a freelance attitude to throeing the ball around
 

Iafeta_old

Guest
I think its adapting to the culture really isn't it?

Price said the boys at the Warriors tend to get downcast more easily in the face of criticism from peers, superiors. In that regard, you have to be extra careful with your method of motivation and understand the idiosyncracies in the socioeconomic culture that is a general environmental factor for the club.
 

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