Internationals AUSSIES CALL KIWIS "HYPOCRITES"

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Kiwis a bunch of hypocrites
By Dean Ritchie
May 3, 2006

AUSTRALIA Ricky Stuart and his angry players last night labelled their New Zealand counterparts hypocrites after it was revealed five members of the Kiwis squad were born in Australia.

The Kangaroos were outraged that New Zealand players and coach Brian McClennan fired barbs at young fullback Karmichael Hunt, who accepted an Australia jumper despite being born across the Tasman.

Kiwis interchange Frank Pritchard was born in Sydney, Brent Webb in Cairns, Jake Webster in Melbourne and Jason and Nathan Cayless in western Sydney.

Pritchard and Webster were particularly vocal in their criticism of Hunt's decision.

"I thought New Zealanders were smarter than that," Stuart said.

"The New Zealanders came out and bagged Karmichael, but five of their players were born right here in Australia. I think it smells of hypocrisy.

"I see Frank Pritchard was fairly heavy on Karmichael this week. I understand Frank was born in Darlinghurst, in the centre of Sydney. Jake Webster also had a shot. He was born in Melbourne.

"Karmichael took the toughest road possible to play at Test level. He could quite easily have taken the softer option and played for New Zealand, but he stood by his convictions and for that, I admire him.

"Karmichael Hunt deserves all the reawrds that come his way. He'll be great for us on Friday night," added Stuart. Kangaroos players have been fired up by New Zealand's criticism of Hunt.


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"You don't hear Aussies slagging off at those blokes (born here and representing New Zealand) for their decisions," forward Willie Mason said.
"You don't see us crying and whinging about them pledging their allegiance. They think they're Kiwis, Karmichael thinks he's an Aussie."

Mason's Bulldogs teammate Mark O'Meley added: "Karmichael has made a decision based on where he started his footy and where he wants to be.

"It's his decision, not anyone else's.

"It's like the Australians who go over there and play for New Zealand, blokes like Webb and Webster.

"We don't give them any stick, so why should Karmichael have to cop this?"

O'Meley said the Kangaroos were determined to protect Hunt, 19, on the field.

"We play as a team and a unit," O'Meley said.

"We all look after each other and it won't be any different on Friday night."

Winger Timana Tahu said: "He's entitled to make his own decision."

Skipper Darren Lockyer said: "If Karmichael feels he's Australian and he wants to play for Australia, then that's his decision.

"You've got to look at the same scenario as Brent Webb for the Kiwis as well."

Nathan Cayless, the Parramatta captain, was named in the New Zealand squad but was yesterday overlooked for a spot among the final 17 men.

Despite New Zealand's Tri-Nations success last year, Australia will start $1.20 favourites at Suncorp Stadium on Friday night with the Kiwis at $4.10 with TAB Sportsbet.

The Daily Telegraph

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WILLIE MASON SHOULD WATCH WHAT HE SAYS.
wiki please smash him!!!!
 

Swanley_old

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They have a point.

We need to stop carrying on like a pair of Mad butcher Pork chops and let our football do the talking....
 

PB_old

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Simple. Kiwis are better than Aussies so welcome to anyone who wants to be a Kiwi and heads up to anyone who doesn't.

He made is choice but this is country vs country. Being hypocritical doesn't come into it; this is about creating a passion for playing in the Black and White, not about congratulating people on becoming an Australian. That ship has sailed for Hunt.

He has a point - all things being fair - but this is a test match, being fair means jack. Ricky's an Aussie so whatever he says is irrelevant.
 

David James_old

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I hate the "he didn't take the softer option" bit.

Stinks of typical Ricky arrogance.
 

KeepingTheFaith_old

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Point made, but you'd think they'd come up with someone better than Stuart and Mason to get the point across. Those two having a go at someone else for crying and whinging, now THAT'S hypocrisy.
 

mosh_old

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We'll the difference is, all of these Aussie based Kiwi's gave up the oppertunity to play Origin. Whereas you do not have to apparently give up much to play for the Kangaroos. If Khunt could play for the Aussies but not be able to play SOO do you think he would play for the green and gold??

So I do not think the hypocrit comment is justified.
 

Kiwi League_old

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Long term, I don't want to see Kiwi players playing origin.
We gain nothing, Aussies gain everything. They will just cherry pick the "super-stars" (Marshall & SBW) to play, and give their home-grown alternative to international league extra validity. They didn't want us before, now we have an awesome team they recognise the threat and want our players in origin.
As NZers, we need international league to be the recognised top tier, with origin the poor 2nd cousin.
 

*Kimmy*_old

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Imo we are not 'hypocrites' as 4 out of those 5 players have new zealand blood in them, except for brent webb. As far as i know khunt has NO australian blood him him...
 

Jesbass_old

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Go_The_Doggies said:
Imo we are not 'hypocrites' as 4 out of those 5 players have new zealand blood in them, except for brent webb. As far as i know khunt has NO australian blood him him...

As far as I am aware, Brent Webb has a Kiwi grandmother. LeagueNut?
 

*Kimmy*_old

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Jesbass said:
Go_The_Doggies said:
Imo we are not 'hypocrites' as 4 out of those 5 players have new zealand blood in them, except for brent webb. As far as i know khunt has NO australian blood him him...

As far as I am aware, Brent Webb has a Kiwi grandmother. LeagueNut?
Oooh Bonus :lol:
 

Ronnie_7_old

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I think that I read in another forum and as far as I know it's true that while those players may have been born in Australia they were brought up in Kiwi households. I know if I had a kid over there and stayed there, there is still now way in hell that I would let that kid call himself an Aussie and he would definitely know where he came from.
 

*Kimmy*_old

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Ronnie_7 said:
I think that I read in another forum and as far as I know it's true that while those players may have been born in Australia they were brought up in Kiwi households. I know if I had a kid over there and stayed there, there is still now way in hell that I would let that kid call himself an Aussie and he would definitely know where he came from.
Exactly. I plan to move to aussie when im older..and if my kid(s) are born there, they'll bloody know what bloody they have in them lol..KIWI blood, and they shall not sing the aussie anthem :lol:
 

commonsense_old

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"You don't hear Aussies slagging off at those blokes (born here and representing New Zealand) for their decisions," forward Willie Mason said.
"You don't see us crying and whinging about them pledging their allegiance. They think they're Kiwis, Karmichael thinks he's an Aussie."

"He could quite easily have taken the softer option and played for New Zealand," Ricky Stuart


these quotes really burn me up. this test is gonna be full of fireworks.
 

*Kimmy*_old

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Willie M...all those blokes have kiwi blood in them ffs...


btw im not sure if webb's grandmother is kiwi *is confused*
 

2big2strong_old

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ditto, if webbs grandmother was kiwi he would've qualified on heritage eligibility, not residency.

I think this has all got out of hand a bit, i think what tonie carroll did, playing for the kiwi's THEN turning his back on us, was worse, and yet i don't recall nearly as much rukkus caused by it, and better yet, tonie carrol IS maori, a native of new zealand where karmichael is pacific islander. i say, three years we've known hunt wants to be an aussie, lets get on with it.
 

Swanley_old

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good response 2b2s.

Get over it, he is not the first and won't be the last.
 

Tajhay_old

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i saw him and hodges at the club i was at on sat night....funny as khunt seemed to be socialising with a lot of kiwi mates....since when are we good enough for you?

ill be there with mates at suncorp on friday and god i hope our players smash him at every opportunity. he wants to be an aussie...let him be...but strange for an aussie to hold the all blacks as their fav sporting team aint it? how long has he been here...5-6 years? hell thats like half the time ive been here! it makes my blood boil that all of a sudden he thinks he is an aussie. real kiwis know what they are.

oh well...atleast we know that our black jumper will not be tarnished with the punk playing for us when he does not have pride in the jumper.
 

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