General Are we still a chance??

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NRL finalists all but settled


The eight NRL finalists appear all but settled after Canberra's dramatic late win over premiers Wests Tigers, but just where they will all finish remains anyone's guess as the top eight logjam intensified over the weekend.

Five sides, Parramatta, Brisbane, Newcastle, St George Illawarra and the Raiders are now all locked on 26 competition points with only points differential separating fourth through eighth position.

The Raiders put a gap between themselves and the chasing pack out of the eight courtesy of a 40m drop goal from halfback Todd Carney with seven seconds remaining against the Tigers.

Wests coach Tim Sheens was left lamenting two missed drop goal attempts from Scott Prince in which he appeared to be hampered by offside defenders.

Sheens later admitted the race for finals spots appeared run and won.

"They (Canberra) go into the bye next week, that's just about tied up the eight," Sheens said.

"Heaven and earth would have to open up for something to change that at this point."

Melbourne's 18-12 win over the Broncos on Sunday in front of over 40,000 fans at Suncorp Stadium has seemingly guaranteed the Victorian club its first ever minor premiership, the Storm needing to lose all of their remaining matches and the Bulldogs win theirs for that equation to change.

The chances of that happening appear remote after the Storm battled back from 10-0 down to secure their 11th straight win, in stark contrast to the Broncos who slumped to their fifth consecutive loss.

The Dragons could sympathise with Brisbane after they themselves slumped to a 26-10 loss to the Bulldogs, the fifth straight defeat equalling the worst ever run in the joint-venture club's short history.

Despite the barren stretch Dragons coach Nathan Brown said a top four finish was well within his side's capabilities.

"For us it's just worrying about us winning, we can't really control what anyone else does, we can only control ourselves," Brown said.

"When we best do that we'll probably get ourselves back on the right track.

"They're (the Bulldogs) definitely a bit ahead of us, they're playing pretty good."

The Bulldogs, premiership favourites with the bookmakers, now appear locked in second place, six points ahead of Manly who leapfrogged the Knights into third spot courtesy of Friday night's 16-14 win in Newcastle.

While the Dragons and the Broncos appear likely to at least play finals football despite indifferent form, the same can't be said for Cronulla, North Queensland and Penrith who all failed to take advantage of opportunities to stay in touch with the eight.

Cronulla was unable to capitalise on a 12-8 halftime lead, going down to a rampant Eels side 34-14, while the Cowboys recorded their 12th loss from their last 15 matches with a 26-0 defeat at the hands of the Warriors.

Just a week after going down to wooden spooners Souths the Panthers just about kissed their 2006 hopes goodbye with a 40-20 loss to second last Sydney Roosters.

The Sharks, Cowboys and Panthers now sit four points behind the eighth placed Raiders and given the current form of all three sides with only three rounds remaining, a late charge at the top eight seems unlikely.

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Has canberra winning yesterday ruined all hopes of the warriors making the 8????? Cos yesterday everyone had all these mathematical ways of how the warriors could make the 8. So is there still a way???
 

dazzler13_old

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The Warriors can make it if - ONE of Canberra (who has a bye), Parramatta, Brisbane or the Dragons lose each of their remaining games AND the Warriors win ALL of their remaining games AND NONE of the Sharks, Cowboys and Panthers win each of their remaining games.
In simple terms if the cut-off for making the top-eight is 26 competition points and the Warriors get 26 points - they are in.
 

Jesbass_old

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dazzler13 said:
The Warriors can make it if - ONE of Canberra (who has a bye), Parramatta, Brisbane or the Dragons lose each of their remaining games AND the Warriors win ALL of their remaining games AND NONE of the Sharks, Cowboys and Panthers win each of their remaining games.
In simple terms if the cut-off for making the top-eight is 26 competition points and the Warriors get 26 points - they are in.

Of the above, I can see the Broncos and possibly the Dragons losing all of their matches, the Warriors winning all of their matches at a pinch and both the Sharks and the Cowboys dropping more games. It basically hinges on the Panthers then, I guess, and our next match against the Storm.
 

warriorfaithful*_old

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So basically if the warriors win all there remaining games and then one of the teams on 26points at the moment loses all there remaining games we should get in??????
 

Jesbass_old

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Basically, yeah. The best we can manage is 26 points. If the Broncos, for example, continue their form slide, and end up on 26, we'll go ahead of them on the table. We should be able to scrape into the finals if we can keep posting wins on a weekly basis. ;)
 

warriorfaithful*_old

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Jesbass said:
Basically, yeah. The best we can manage is 26 points. If the Broncos, for example, continue their form slide, and end up on 26, we'll go ahead of them on the table. We should be able to scrape into the finals if we can keep posting wins on a weekly basis. ;)

Awesome. So there is still a bit of hope to live on!!!!! :)
 

Esoj_old

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yeah there is a chance. a slim chance but still a chance. we have good points differential which could be vital if we are level with teams on 26 points.
 

westie stylz_old

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If we hadn't been docked 4 points we would only need one, possibly two wins from our final three matches to make it.

What would make things real interesting would be if the Bulldogs beat the Broncos, the Roosters beat the Eels and the Warriors beat the Storm.

If those results happen this weekend then it will spring the door open a bit further because the Broncos play the Eels in round 25. So one of those teams is guaranteed another loss.

Ideally the Broncos lose both which would potentially put the Warriors fate in their own hands. Key word: Potentially.

But I can't see all three of those results happening.

i think we may find ourselves gone after this weekend.
 

IanS_old

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Newcastle are as good as gone after Johns got charged with a grade 3 contrary conduct charge, so some good news.

Down side, they play the Cowboys this week.
 

sebastian_old

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I believe if beat the storm, we WILL be in the finals, the broncos play the dogs & eels & WILL lose, then they play us & if we had beat the storm by then we will have an mountain of momentuem. Historys says when Warriors have momentuem they are very dangerous.
 

warriorfaithful*_old

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sebastian said:
I believe if beat the storm, we WILL be in the finals, the broncos play the dogs & eels & WILL lose, then they play us & if we had beat the storm by then we will have an mountain of momentuem. Historys says when Warriors have momentuem they are very dangerous.

Yeah exactly right!!!! Man am i excited for the warriors game this week and it's only monday. I'm losing sleep over this game lol.
 

westie stylz_old

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IanS said:
Newcastle are as good as gone after Johns got charged with a grade 3 contrary conduct charge, so some good news.

Down side, they play the Cowboys this week.

Newcastle have a bye so they are gauranteed a playoff spot.

If they can beat the Cowboys and Panthers then they will finish third or fourth which will mean a home semi final and probably a life in the playoffs.

But as we all know they have an awful record without him so they are more likely to lose both matches to Cowboys and Panthers who will have to win to stay alive as well.

If that happens the Knights will probably finish 7th or 8th and have an away playoff v the Storm or Bulldohs which should mean their season ends right there without Johns playing again.

Third scenario is that they win one of those two games and that should ensure they get a second life in the playoffs by finishing 6th or 5th.

make sense????
 

Jesbass_old

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Tajhay said:
i hate theories and the need to have other teams lose to give us a chance.

I know how you feel, Tajhay, but I'd rather have a slim chance relying on other results than no chance at all. Keep the dream alive. ;)
 

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westie stylz said:
If we hadn't been docked 4 points we would only need one, possibly two wins from our final three matches to make it.

What would make things real interesting would be if the Bulldogs beat the Broncos, the Roosters beat the Eels and the Warriors beat the Storm.

If those results happen this weekend then it will spring the door open a bit further because the Broncos play the Eels in round 25. So one of those teams is guaranteed another loss.

Ideally the Broncos lose both which would potentially put the Warriors fate in their own hands. Key word: Potentially.

But I can't see all three of those results happening.

i think we may find ourselves gone after this weekend.

If we hadn't breached the salary cap in the first place, (and thus not lost the four points), it's unlikely we would have had both Wiki and Price at the Warriors, and we'd already be out of the finals contention, in my opinion.
 

Jesbass_old

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westie stylz said:
IanS said:
Newcastle are as good as gone after Johns got charged with a grade 3 contrary conduct charge, so some good news.

Down side, they play the Cowboys this week.

Newcastle have a bye so they are gauranteed a playoff spot.

If they can beat the Cowboys and Panthers then they will finish third or fourth which will mean a home semi final and probably a life in the playoffs.

But as we all know they have an awful record without him so they are more likely to lose both matches to Cowboys and Panthers who will have to win to stay alive as well.

If that happens the Knights will probably finish 7th or 8th and have an away playoff v the Storm or Bulldohs which should mean their season ends right there without Johns playing again.

Third scenario is that they win one of those two games and that should ensure they get a second life in the playoffs by finishing 6th or 5th.

make sense????

If the Knights make the finals, Johns will play in that first match. He is only likely to miss two matches through suspension. Three rounds because of the bye, but only two matches.
 

warriorfaithful*_old

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Jesbass said:
If the Knights make the finals, Johns will play in that first match. He is only likely to miss two matches through suspension. Three rounds because of the bye, but only two matches.

I heard it was going to be 3-4 weeks ot for joey. And he would miss the 1st and maybe the 2nd game of the finals......... but i duno :)
 

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