General Amerikiwi Vs Skinner

da mad maori

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Hi there Brothers, you all set for this. This is a beaut, and has been supplied by one of the judges, Polar Bob. There is one rule that has been tightened up on. And that is the closing off time. It is 7 pm [nz] on thursday evening. So gentlemen here is your question....

Do the Warriors have a responsiblity to grow the games popularity throughout New Zealand, or is it Warriors first, and Warriors last.

Pretty simple huh. Your essays will decide if it is or is'nt.

Skinner, Negative mate. Tell us all why the Warriors should be first and last.

Amerikiwi, Positive bro, tell us why the Warriors have the responsibilty to the popularity growth of league, in New Zealand,
 

JonB_old

Guest
I like this question. Goodluck Skinner, but lik I said Amerkiwi you had better win
 

Skinner_old

Guest
(Word count 685)

In order to understand whether or not the NZ Warriors have any responsibility toward growing the game of Rugby League in New Zealand, it’s necessary to take a look back at how the team from Penrose in Auckland actually got started.

A New Zealand based (and based is the important word here) team in, what was, the Winfield Cup competition, was actually the brain child of some forward thinking folks from the Mt Albert club in 1988. The idea outgrew the good folks from Mt Albert and Auckland Rugby League took over the charge to have a team involved in the NSWRL competition.

To gauge the potential success, or otherwise, of an Auckland based team in their competition, the NSWRL actually held a series of Australian Club games, both trials and actual competition round games at Carlaw Park in the early 90‘s. It goes without saying that the old park was filled to the gunnels for these matches, and the officials were always suitably impressed.

Finally, on the 17th of May, 1992, it was announced that a team from Auckland, New Zealand, would compete in the Winfield Cup at the commencement of the 1995 season. The bid had been accepted on the basis of how a team from Auckland could help assist and grow the NSWRL Winfield Cup Competition. Not necessarily grow Rugby League in New Zealand.

So, quite clearly from day one, although there may be a natural “flow on†effect, there was never an objective or a responsibility to assist the game in New Zealand. Whilst the Auckland Warriors, as they were to be named, were administered by Auckland Rugby League, the Auckland Warriors Board operated completely autonomously. Chaired by a former Auckland Rugby League Chairman, Peter McLeod, the Board had Auckland Clubs representation on it, though, history shows that this individual had little or no say at all in the running of the club or where it’s development responsibilities lay.

The fact that the Auckland Warriors Board employed a CEO who came out of Australian Football League was never going to enhance the chances of any assistance for grass roots league in this country. Cheque book hero, Ian Robson, was many things, but never a proponent of domestic league. In his “rah rah, rev ‘em up†meetings at Auckland clubs, prior to their entry, he would expound the theory that the Auckland Warriors were going
to stop the player drain to Australia !!!

I would strongly suggest that the drain has become a flood, most of which, the Warriors have been responsible for.

Now - if all of the above was disadvantageous to the local game, what happened next was absolutely soul destroying. Super League and it’s war with NSWRL and Australia Rugby League served only to vastly widen the already large gap between the top echelon of the game and the players at ground zero. Ian Robson and the Auckland Warriors were the first club to sign. Obscene amounts of money pumped into the break away competition
simply ensured that there was little chance of anything being left over for the nursery.

While, in this country anyway, the Super League war remains a distant memory, little has changed with regard to the Warriors, in their various iterations, and how they perceive any responsibility towards local NZ league. The situation was certainly not helped by the attitude of former CEO, Mick Watson, who steadfastly refused to even talk to the Clubs
about development monies that have been owed back to the Clubs for some years.

Nett - Do the Warriors have a responsibility to grow the games popularity throughout New Zealand ? Legally or contractually - not one iota, never have and are never likely to. Morally - probably, but it won’t change anytime soon.

The supreme irony in all of this is, while they have no responsibility, they have a dramatic impact on the game in this country. When the Warriors are going well on the paddock, the kids are falling over themselves to play league. When the Warriors are going bad, no one wants to know the code……….sad isn’t it.
 

AmeriKiwi_old

Guest
(word count - 700)

Pavlova, anyone? You`ll have to cross the Tasman, of course, for the authentic version, as everyone knows Pavlova is an Australian recipe. Okay, so we New Zealanders know it`s actually a kiwi creation, but that hasn`t stopped the Aussies from taking credit for it, as they seem to do with every successful New Zealand idea or invention. Therefore, it came as no great surprise to me when I learned that a New Zealander by the name of Albert Baskerville was the man who first introduced the idea of a professional Rugby League to the Australians. Baskerville and his travelling “All Golds†team toured Sydney in 1907, the Australian fans loved it, and the funds raised from that tour so long ago both inspired and helped finance the formation of the N.S.W. Rugby League in 1908. The Queensland Rugby League was formed a year later and the rest is history. As usual, the kiwis did all the work and the Aussies claimed all the glory. I don`t know about you, but that doesn`t settle well with me. Having recently adopted New Zealand as my home country, I love all things kiwi, and I`ve always been one to cheer for the underdog. Enough is enough, in my opinion, and it`s high time we create an international reputation of our own and form a national identity in which we can rein supreme and of which we can all be proud!

What better way to do just that than by turning New Zealand into RUGBY LEAGUE NATION? That`s just what the Warriors need to do in order to help New Zealand make a name for itself in the world of Rugby League. We have heaps of yet to be discovered world class talent right here in our own backyard, and with the Kiwis` 24-0 trouncing of Australia last year, the timing couldn`t be more perfect for expanding Rugby League throughout the rest of God`s own country. New Zealand needs Rugby League and Rugby League needs New Zealand. League is the younger, fresher, more exciting “little brother†of Union rugby by far, and like most younger siblings, has been pushed aside for far too long. The best way to change that and instill a strong sense of national pride and unity in New Zealand is through building more NRL expansion teams right here at home.

We won`t have to look far, either. There are fifteen Rugby League regions and districts between Auckland and Southland, and many of these teams would give any NRL team a run for their money. Recruiting kiwi players from both large cities and small towns throughout New Zealand would certainly draw new fans to League, add more interest for existing fans, and provide a huge boost to New Zealand`s economy, both locally and nationally. Logically speaking, the best areas to form expansion teams would be in the Bay of Plenty and Waikato regions, as these areas have the largest percentage of League fans and players in New Zealand, after Auckland. Good news travels fast, however, and it won`t be long before more new fans from other areas of New Zealand decide to jump on the bandwagon, as well. With the right investors and marketing strategies, the sky`s the limit for League in New Zealand, and it`s just a matter of time before New Zealand and League become as synonymous as Boston and marathon.

The English have their Super League, the Americans have their NFL, and the Australians currently claim bragging rights to that which is rightfully the property of New Zealand... Rugby League. Let the Aussies talk as if they invented pavlova and Rugby League. Let`s show them and the WORLD through actions, not words, that the true home of Rugby League is right here in New Zealand. The best way to do that, of course, is to recruit our own grassroots players and for the Warriors to help expand Rugby League teams throughout this beautiful country of ours. New Zealand is a sports loving country and we have both a right and the responsibility to stand tall and walk proudly in the eyes of the world. We owe it to Albert Baskerville and we owe it to ourselves, after all.
 

JonB_old

Guest
Good Job Amerkiwi, id like to say you deserve to win however Skinners article was excellent aswell.
 

PB_old

Guest
Judges final decision is pending.

My presumption is both contestants are still in despite mutual withdrawals?
 

PB_old

Guest
Semi-Final number 2

This was really hard. So hard that we couldn't reach a consensus and took ages. One judge even retired hurt. Two top quality articles were put up. In the end one effort persuaded more than the other. Good style and construction of points in both but......

The majority winner in this contest: Skinner.
 

AliN_old

Guest
Well done Skinner, top notch stuff there. And bad luck to you AK, it was a great essay you wrote.
 

JonB_old

Guest
AliN said:
Well done Skinner, top notch stuff there. And bad luck to you AK, it was a great essay you wrote.

Word. I thought you had produced a top notch essay Mr America.
 

IanS_old

Guest
It was probably the toughest match all tournament.

Seriously, you guys should write some stuff and we can get it posted up on the website.

Obviously some of you are commited to other websites, but if you ever feel you want to put your point across about any issue in the game, I can post it here or at rleague.com if you want it to go out to a greater audience. If not rleague, then I'm sure Ali or ozbash can get it posted on LU.

It would be great if we can get other people doing match reviews instead of the same old person all the time, plus adding some obviously terrific views on the game at the same time.

If you want something posted, then email it to me since the pm's aren't working yet.
 

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