Player Ali Lauitiiti

Miket12

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Apr 20, 2012
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It would be electric from the moment his name is announced during warmup.
People would lose their shit if he pops out a try assisting offload.
One of best memories from days gone by was the "Ali" shout that went up for him when a scored after only being of the field for a few minutes in a finals game against the Raiders - was a magic moment!!!
 

surfin

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May 9, 2012
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One of best memories from days gone by was the "Ali" shout that went up for him when a scored after only being of the field for a few minutes in a finals game against the Raiders - was a magic moment!!!

Yep, I lost my shit that day, especially 2 minutes later when the try was disallowed because of PJ.
 

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I don't know, I really don't. I mean, I'm not even living in New Zealand any more, and I have no Kiwi or Māori or Pacifika roots. But it still does my heart good, thinking about this. That the club has signed a great, great player who has played his heart out over the years and who is held in seriously high regard, with the greatest respect, by the New Zealand rugby league community, but who is 36 years old. And, *and*, is being very seriously considered for some First Grade time.

Sorry mate but disagree, is Cappy going to say that he is too old and has no chance, people will go ballistic if he did. Worst case scenario is a long run of injuries to 2nd rowers and he might get a run. No Coach worth his salt is going to paint himself into a corner like that.

Told you so! haha. It's gonna happen!

People will go ballistic if our coach plays him, but in a good way.

And the crowd goes wild... :) :) :)
 

Rick O'Shay

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May 1, 2013
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This would be PR heaven. The prodigal son returning. Like it as not, we are big on history and Warriors fans have the best memories in the NRL, good (sometimes) bad (usually) or indifferent (often).

Ali is fondly remembered and if I was Cappy I would have him on the bench for whatever is the toughest game of the year. He would be motivation central for the rest.
 
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mt.wellington

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Jun 21, 2012
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Ali Lautiiti is still a long way off playing 1st Grade. Needs to get over his injuries, get some match fitness in Reserve Grade and he'd also need a few injuries to go his way. As much as I would love to see him take the field, especially in the Warriors heritage jersey, I wont be hyping myself for it to happen.

I wonder if Mick Watson had started smoking meth when he fired Ali? Was meant to have had a huge problem with the stuff...
 

bruce

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I wonder if Mick Watson had started smoking meth when he fired Ali? Was meant to have had a huge problem with the stuff...
I think he owed a bit of money around town back then, so probably.
 

mt.wellington

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Jun 21, 2012
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Awesome article on Ali Lauitiiti by Corey Rosser. Check out his new page that focuses on Rugby League in NZ and Kiwis playing here and abroad. Links are below...

It’s 12 years overdue, but Ali’s home
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It’s a Wednesday afternoon in February inside the gym at Mt Smart Stadium and Ali Lauitiiti is having one of those days where he can’t avoid knowing he’s a 36-year-old professional rugby league player.

His left hamstring is giving him trouble and has been for most of the pre-season since he arrived back in Auckland.

It’s a veteran niggle if ever there was one, caused by overworking the tendon across a 17-year career which has seen him represent three clubs in two hemispheres.

While it’s nothing serious or long-term, you can sense the frustration in Ali’s voice. When you know you probably only have a maximum of 28 games left in your career you really don’t want to be missing too many through injury.

The dodgy hammy has meant he is yet to do any significant part of the pre-season with his new teammates at his original club, which he hasn’t donned the jersey of since 2004.

It’s also a reminder that Alaimatagi Lauitiiti, the offload-out-of-nowhere-dynamic-fending-game-changing-Michael-Jordan-of-league, is going to add value in a different kind of way this time around for the Warriors.

“Obviously all the fans are probably expecting that Ali to still be here, but I have just got to do what the coach and staff want and try and get into the team first,” Lauitiiti says.

“We have heaps of good second-rowers running around so there is some good healthy competition going on and at the end of the day the coach will choose the best players.

“I still need to catch up on some fitness stuff, at the moment we are just taking things slowly and trying to get some mileage in the legs and get up to speed.

“I have had a few hiccups with hamstring injuries.

“Age? Yeah I reckon it is a sign of that, I did it doing speed work…my hamstrings are not holding that well.”


Ali Lauitiiti then and now in a Warriors jersey. Credit: warriors.kiwi

Big Ali’s return to Mt Smart Stadium marks the homecoming of a favourite son who most to this day believe should never have been allowed to leave.

Just two years prior to his sudden and inexplicable sacking from the Warriors in 2004 Lauitiiti had been recognised as the best second-rower in the NRL, helping lead the club to the 2002 NRL Grand Final.

It was abundantly clear how good he was, but that wasn’t enough to stop him from becoming a victim of an erratic and ultimately short-sighted decision by the club at the time.

While the early 2000’s under coach Daniel Anderson saw the Warriors record some of their best on-field results, it was also a time highlighted by some questionable management decisions (the great Stacey Jones was relegated to the bench the same year Lauitiiti left).

News of Ali’s departure shocked the club’s fanbase and kick-started an international battle for his signature, which was eventually won by Leeds.

Former Warriors staff members recall it was a situation even those on the inside couldn’t get their head around at the time.

For his part Lauitiiti insists there were never any sour grapes. But even if there were they would have well and truly decomposed by now; the current Warriors’ administration resembles nothing of the 2004 setup.

“For me I don’t look at it that way; that was just a misunderstanding,” Lauitiiti says.

“We went our own ways and it was pretty much mutual. That’s just the way it is and it is all part of business and all that.”

After finishing his testimonial season with Wakefield last year big Ali was set to head to France to gradually retire in the second division competition while enjoying the lifestyle, before a chance txt message opened an opportunity back home.

“It was just a random txt to Rubes (Ruben Wiki) and from there he told Tony Iro who called me up to see if it was for real.

“That’s how it happened and pretty much for me it was about taking the opportunity to come here and be part of the team.

“Not much has changed in terms of the boys just relaxing and having a good laugh away from footy.

“The intensity and the work ethic at training are still the same. The club is well run now, it all starts from the top, so everything is going well.

“I think it’s just the freshness of everything which I am enjoying so far. Everything seems new to me again.

“It is awesome being around guys like Ruben and Stacey (Jones) again, just to get a bit of their wisdom and also have them passing on their experience of the game to us.

“It has been a bit overwhelming at first to be back because myself, my wife and my kids are used to having our own space in the UK and doing our own thing.

“But here we have our family – which is a bonus and a good thing – seeing my olds and my wife’s parents, but it’s different to deal with.

“Also for the kids seeing their cousins and all that. All except the second youngest were born in the UK so it is very different here for them and they have had to get used to it.

“But slowly they are adapting to school life over here. They are enjoying the weather unlike me, I am struggling at the moment!”


At Leeds Ali helped the club to five Super League titles and three World Club Challenge victories. Credit: photosport.nz

Off the field Lauitiiti credits the 12-year stay in the UK for making him a better father and husband, and in rugby league terms it’s hard to argue that it was an extremely valuable experience as well.

In his first season with Leeds Lauitiiti won the Super League title, starting in the second-row in a 16-8 victory over Yorkshire rivals Bradford, a team packed-full of Kiwis such as Shontayne Hape, Lesley Vainikolo, Joe Vagana and Robbie Paul.

That victory kick-started a hugely successful decade for the Rhinos, winning four further league titles in 2007, 2008, 2009 and 2011 with Lauitiiti around, as well as World Club Challenge triumphs in 2005, 2008 and 2012.

In total he played eight seasons with Leeds after initially only signing for two and a half years.

“It was the group of players who were coming through at the time, we were eager and motivated to do some good things. I just slotted in with that,” he says.

“We had some great players and the brand of footy we played was good to watch.

“I was telling the boys, if I hadn’t been married I don’t think I would have even gone over to the UK. My wife was a big part of why I went there and why I stayed so long.

“Also when I had my first child that was a big thing to push me to stay there longer and go well.

“Myself and the family were happy there, they made some good friends and were settled so why change it?”

Three years at lowly Wakefield capped off his time in the Old Dart.

If Lauitiiti does make it back to the NRL with the Warriors this year and add to his 115 appearances – and despite his history it is a big if – it probably won’t happen until the middle or back end of the year.

Part of the reason for that is the Warriors possess a wealth of back-row talent, with a locked in starting three and some highly-rated youngsters coming through both the Holden Cup and NSW Cup systems.

It will take a few injuries for a gap to open up, and even then Ali isn’t guaranteed to be the filler coach Andrew McFadden calls on.


Lauitiiti scored 33 tries in 115 games for the Warriors between 1998-2004. Credit: photosport.nz

It is also likely to take a couple of months in the lower grades for him to get back to the kind of fitness demanded of forwards in the NRL these days, particularly in a year where the interchange has been reduced from 10 to eight.

McFadden, who took the field against Lauitiiti towards the back end of his own playing career, believes the addition of the former New Zealand and Samoa international will be a huge positive for his squad, regardless of the level he plays at.

“It’s been difficult for Ali at the moment because he has been in the rehabilitation group, but when he is on the field he has got a really strong voice, he obviously understands the game really well,” McFadden says.

“He is going to be a great, great person to have around our young players.

“It’s going to take him a bit of time to find his feet I think, but certainly we have a long-term view on him in terms of this season and he is going to be a very valuable for our young halves in that second grade to start with.

“Some of these guys (in the Warriors squad) haven’t even heard of Ali they are so young.

“But it is great to have those sorts of people around you.”

The players too are already relishing the chance to learn off Lauitiiti, who has a squeaky clean off-field record to go with his impressive football resume.

Twenty-six-year old prop James Gavet, who has just signed with the Warriors in a bid to resurrect his career which to date has been dogged by battles with alcoholism, sees Lauitiiti as a role model in every sense.

“You can see the example he sets, Ali is a really funny guy you can have fun with but you notice how humble and clean he is,” Gavet says.

“Even without him being on the field through the pre-season we have still looked up to him in many ways. He is our older brother.

“It was a surreal experience when I first came out of the Warriors’ U-20 squad and they partnered me up with Steve Price. I kind of got used to it at the Tigers training with guys like Lote Tuqiri and Benji Marshall, but I think Ali has been a bit different, I have gone back to the start and been in awe again.

“It would be a cool box to tick off to play next to Ali.”

Having signed a second-tier contract with the club Lauitiiti will train full time with the NRL squad this year, but with the expectation of playing predominantly in the NSW Cup side.

He knows the decision to bring him back to Penrose isn’t just a playing one, and that much of his role will be to provide leadership to a team who collapsed at the back end of last season partly due to a lack of it.

“If I can I help the young boys out then good, pretty much I will be sharing my experience and life lessons to see if I can help them out in a way,” he says.

“Just in terms of doing the small things, I struggled a lot when I was younger with little stuff like eating the right things. But that’s massive, especially for us Pacific Island players, and just things like punctuation, turning up on time.

“Those are the small things that go a long way, as well as respect and manners.”

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mt.wellington

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Most who have been around awhile will be familiar with this story but it was always based on whispers and Mick Watson's side of the story...

Why Lauitiiti was escorted away
Saturday, 09 April 2016
By Michael Burgess
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Ali Lauitiiti has returned to the Warriors and retains hope of playing first grade. Photo / Dean Purcell

It's seems impossible to believe now, but when Ali Lauitiiti left the Warriors in 2004 then chief executive Mick Watson instructed a staff member to escort him off the premises.

Lauitiiti, who has made an improbable return to the club this year and retains hopes of playing at NRL level again, has never spoken in detail before about his surprise exit from his hometown club.

But 12 years on he has finally revealed the bizarre circumstances behind his departure, which was probably the beginning of the end of Watson's reign.

Lauitiiti enjoyed a sharp rise after making his debut in 1998. By 2002, he was regarded as the most exciting forward in the game, with a prodigious offloading ability and incredible footwork and power. At times he was unstoppable, labelled the Michael Jordan of league by the Australian media during the Warriors' run to the 2002 grand final.

The following season was also successful, with the team desperately close to another grand final (they lost 28-20 to eventual premiers Penrith in the preliminary final).

However, things began to unravel in 2004. They had won just one of their first six matches when Watson called Lauitiiti into his office.

"I didn't really know where the meeting was going," recalled Lauitiiti. "There were all sorts of stories and analogies being talked about."

Watson then asked the 24-year-old to list his priorities in life. On a whiteboard, Lauitiiti wrote family and religion at the top, with the Warriors underneath.

"He wasn't happy with that," Lauitiiti said. "I said things I probably shouldn't have said. I didn't say anything nasty or anything, but I didn't respond the way they wanted me to.

"But you can't really change a person. League was always going to be important for me, because it was my job. But it was never going to take away my family and church. [That] was a big part for quite a few of the boys."

In the book Warrior Nation, Watson outlined his rationale.

"I told him that if he couldn't show me he wanted to be at the club, then we would look at other options," said Watson. "He offered me nothing. When an athlete who is paid among the top three in the club says, 'I don't really care that much', I don't think time would have made any difference."

Lauitiiti accepts he wasn't playing well at the time, and had already had a few meetings with Watson, But this one was the last.

"He just told me to leave and I had to be escorted off the premises," said Lauitiiti. "One of the workers came and stood by the door while I grabbed my things. He said, 'I'll walk you to your car'."

It's an astonishing scenario, especially for a player who had played 115 games for the club. His team-mates were shocked.

"It was a decision that was rushed," said former halfback Stacey Jones. "Ali was made a scapegoat in a team that wasn't performing. He had a skill level far superior to anyone else for a big guy and could have had five or six more years for the Warriors. That was the most disappointing thing for everyone. But Ali went quietly. He could have made a few noises but that shows his character."

Lauitiiti has no regrets - "It was hard at the time but also a blessing in disguise. I needed to change" - but Watson probably does. The Warriors went into free-fall that season, as coach Daniel Anderson resigned and the team finished equal bottom of the ladder. They didn't really recover until 2007.

Lauitiiti is enjoying his second spell at the club, even if he is no longer a household name.

"I'm pretty much no one to the kids these days, it was so long ago," laughed Lauitiiti, who has been turning out for the Warriors' reserve grade side. "But from people my age and a bit older there is lots of 'welcome back' and 'it's good to have you back'. That's nice."

If he plays first-grade this year, he would be the oldest player in the competition, although Lauitiiti is biding his time.

"I need to earn my stripes. I'd like to play my part at some stage but just got to take it day by day."

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nzw

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FFs give the guy a go off the bench konny is trying hard but he is a center get konny off the bench and put Ali in for a go he has shown in 2nd grade he still has it
 
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bruce

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"I didn't really know where the meeting was going," recalled Lauitiiti. "There were all sorts of stories and analogies being talked about."

Watson then asked the 24-year-old to list his priorities in life. On a whiteboard, Lauitiiti wrote family and religion at the top, with the Warriors underneath.

"He wasn't happy with that," Lauitiiti said. "I said things I probably shouldn't have said. I didn't say anything nasty or anything, but I didn't respond the way they wanted me to.
Now if Ali had asked Watson to do the same honestly he would have written:

1. My next fix
2. The money to pay for it.

A very sad day for the Warriors. EW should have been aware of his namesakes demise much earlier than that.
 

Miket12

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Apr 20, 2012
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I'm hoping the Hoff gets called up SOO duty and Cappy has the guts to call on Ali to fill the gap - only for Ali to play so well in FG, Cappy has to keep him there!!!
 

edgecumbe

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Jun 5, 2015
22
This tard McFappy likes to use only 3 of his interchanges any way,
Why not do the League world a favour and put Lauitiiti on the bench against the Roosters in our heritage round.
Throw him on for 15min, let him go in the record books as the oldest player ever, and give him the proper Mt Smart farewell he deserves.

Why not? Things can't get any worse than they already are, and for sure he deserves that send off after the club threw him out
 

Leaguegod

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Aug 24, 2015
595
Gavin Millar played his last game in the Cronulla reserve team and their first team was going shit at the time, no one in the next generation gives two hoots over past glory if Cronulla could treat Millar (who did more for that club than anyone past or present) in that manner then I think we won't be seeing Ali anytime soon (shame shame shame) I am sure he'd offer more than Shaun Lane or anyone else we have plugged in the pack. Fuck you cappy
 

Sup42

Warriors 1st Grader
May 7, 2012
23,356
I had heard it was Daniel Andersons fault.

The stuff Watson did was attributed to Anderson back in the day....at the time.

The rumor was correct, but the person it was attributed to was the coach at the time.

Just goes to show how rumors get skewed.
 

mrblonde

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Apr 14, 2012
4,115
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Why would you play him in a nothing game? I'd keep him for the ISP playoff game if he's fit to play.

It's only us old codgers who remember Ali's years in the Warriors NRL side. Lots of people would see Ali and go "why the fuck is Cappy debuting some 35 year old guy?!"
 

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