General 2023 Membership

I wouldn't be surprised if we get the bye round 1 next year as well.
I’d be pissed as we had a round 1 bye in 2002, Manly in ‘03, Melbourne ‘04, Canberra ‘05 and Sharks 2006, they’ve all their our turn. Let it be the Broncos, Roosters, Eels or Panthers.
 
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Maybe the NRL know full well growing the game in New Zealand is going to be damn near impossible, so don't want to waste their money? It's Auckland or bust. Or Semi-Bust or bust, in other words.
This isn't true. Kiwis' fucking LOVE winners. A successful Warriors team would make the NRL pretty popular in NZ. I know a lot of people who just tuned out after a while due to the Warriors continued mediocrity. They used to watch the non NZ games too and play NRL fantasy. Now nothing.
 
I'm not following the "Warriors agreed to it" line I've seen on social media. I'll rant in here rather than engaging with them there :D

The Warriors only have control of 12 games. There are either cash incentives or an existing agreement for Magic Round. We'd obviously prefer to be an away team from a fan pov, but you cant begrudge the club for chasing the cash.

That leaves 11 left in the Warriors control.

Prior to determining how to set out their remaining 11 home games, the Warriors and their fans have been hearing for the last 2 years how much they had done to keep the game alive and would be rewarded with extra NZ games, a whole season in NZ, a magic round in Auckland, 3 points per win etc. etc.
This was going to be amazing. 11 games at MSS, another 5+ games around the country. League everywhere.

Now that push has come to shove, the Warriors now know that the Aussies were full of shit.

Not many, if any other clubs are going to bring their home games to NZ. The fans in Dunedin that had high hopes of an NRL match in their city? Tough Shit. The fans in Christchurch that had their hopes up? Tough Shit. Hamilton? Wellington? The thousands of fans within driving distance of these cities? Tough Shit.

To his credit (for once) Cameron George has been pressuring every club and the NRL, both privately and in the media, asking for something.. anything.. for 2023.
They've all said "yeah, nah, thanks though"

So what should the Warriors do knowing that? Keep 11 games at MSS and say tough shit to their fans around NZ too?

No. It looks like the Warriors are doing it all by themselves and taking a game to (likely) Wellington and Christchurch.

MSS is still getting 9 games. As someone else pointed out, its the same number we were getting in 2020. But to ensure the MS Faithful aren't getting a rough deal, members only have to pay for 3. Other clubs/codes have also been through covid and aren't giving such a substantial rollover.

So the Warriors did not agree to play Zero away games around NZ in 2023. They did not agree to reignite the game in NZ all by themselves.
There are many things our club does terribly, but this isn't one of them. The Warriors have been served a shit sandwich by the NRL and are doing their best to not completely disappoint the Warriors fans outside of Auckland.
To be fair, did any talk of "the Warriors are going to awarded a whole season in New Zealand" come out of anyone's piehole other than Cameron's?

Same as every other idea, Cameron spruiking that the NRL knew they owed us bigtime and, boy, it was going to be great in 2023 when they showed us the luuurve.

The Warriors have always been the tail happy to wag away. The NRL has always been the stupid, ugly, snarly inbred mutt that every so often tries to nip at the tail.

And the tail can't survive without the dog.

Why should any team, who themselves have been to a certain extent in the financial shit, bring a home game to Auckland, or worse, outside Auckland where I honestly don't think they'd get a crowd anything like what they'd get at home? The "thousands of fans outside Auckland" stuff hasn't ever really been shown by the crowds that have turned up to Warriors games outside Auckland especially when you consider a fair number of that crowd would have come down from Auckland. Auckland is New Zealand's biggest city, so logically has the highest number of Warriors fans and as far as the Warriors club are concerned, most of them are part of the Wheredafuckarday tribe on game day. Maybe if we filled out MSS on a regular basis, showing the love in Auckland, they might think it worth their time to go to Wellington etc,

This isn't true. Kiwis' fucking LOVE winners. A successful Warriors team would make the NRL pretty popular in NZ. I know a lot of people who just tuned out after a while due to the Warriors continued mediocrity. They used to watch the non NZ games too and play NRL fantasy. Now nothing.
You're right about the fair weather friendship but actually my argument was more "the Warriors/NRL growing the game in New Zealand" as in strengthening the game outside Auckland rather than the Warriors/NRL taking games outside Auckland.
 
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I feel like the second best scenario if we aren't getting teams to take games against us here would be a second magic round over here, in fact, it's probably the best option from an NRL perspective.

It wouldn't have much of a competitive advantage for us but the NRL can then toot their own horn and say they game NZ an extra 7 games of footy to go to.

And with half of the teams having to give up a home game to play in Brisbane, they could even it out so all the 'Away' teams at Magic Round have a 'Home' game in the second Magic Round; it also means that the team that gets the bye for the Brisbane one does get to play in a Magic Round at some point.

The Tigers v Storm/Wariors vs Storm double header back in 2018 shows that people would show up non-Warriors games but unfortunately the NRL is going to NRL aren't they..
 
Cameron Geroge was on the radio (NewsTalkZB) yesterday morning around 7:15. Not a long interview about 2-5 minutes.

He said he was still trying to organise more games here. Might be still a chance but could also be the political answer to give.

He did say the NRL should of been organising the thank you for the last few years. I suspected when it was first discussed about an entire season here it would be "too hard" clubs will think of themselves and not want to give up a home game and add travel. The NRL could show leadership but it would end up the tail wagging the dog and the clubs doing their own thing.

We had big talk from Bellamy. Will the Storm give up the lucrative ANZAC Day game for one year? Yeah right.

Our guys needed to play to get paid. There may have been some percentage paid if they didn't continue in 2020. However you have to wonder if there isn't anything in return would the club do this all again if another pandemic hit? Even with the same CEO or a new one the question would have to be asked well you didn't do much in return last time.
 
Wellington & Napier in the mix for 2023
Vodafone Warriors CEO Cameron George has today announced Wellington and Napier will host two of the club’s home games in the 2023 NRL season.

It follows confirmation the Vodafone Warriors’ return to their Auckland base after three long years in Australia will see nine of their 12 home games being played at Mount Smart Stadium with the remaining match again committed to the NRL Magic Round.

“Next season is not only critical for us as a club but especially for rugby league throughout New Zealand,” said George.

“Our role is vital in doing all we can to help reconnect supporters with the Vodafone Warriors and the game not just through our fan base in Auckland but in other parts of the country.

“It’s a huge thrill for us going to the Hawke’s Bay for the first time and it’s equally exciting to return to the Capital.

The opponents and dates for the matches at SKY Stadium and McLean Park won’t be known until the NRL releases the full season draw later this year.

Napier is an interesting choice to say the least isn't it?.. Dunedin or Hamilton have Super Rugby and will have Women's World Cup matches so scheduling may have been hard but no love for ChCh?
 
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matiunz

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Napier is an interesting choice to say the least isn't it?.. Dunedin or Hamilton have Super Rugby and will have Women's World Cup matches so scheduling may have been hard but no love for ChCh?
Assume it’s some sort of sweetener for our captain being a Hastings boy
 

bruce

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Can anyone trust anything that comes from his piehole? I bet Ivan Cleary doesn't, anymore, if he ever did, since he's the guy who one minute says "Ivan's tired!" and nek minnit (don't know what the Aussie version would be!) said "Ivan's fired!"
Peter Peters. who was full of bullshit at best, made one intelligent remark about Gould, he thinks he out the air in the football.