Mr Frank White
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He won't. That's the whole point of growth mate.
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end of the day every person under the sun can say ice misses home if he really did he would of been back here by now
end of story he aint coming
end of story he aint coming
WarriorDave
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This year yet?
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He’s not signed with the ‘All Blacks’- he’s signed with NZ Rugby. Might not seem like much of a difference but all players for nz are signed centrally to NZ Rugby for a base salary, they then pick up provincial and or Super rugby contracts on top of that. If Roger Tuivasa-Sheck is signed to NZ Rugby (until end of 2023) but not signed to a province or super rugby franchise then it’s easier to be released as you essentially aren’t playing any rugby outside of tests. It is extremely unlikely that he didn’t signed to the blues- however if the blues release him it’s likely NZ rugby will also under the previous situation.
jonesy101
Is your comment based on a source? Or more hypothetical that he should have been here by now?
Noitall
Anymore pg tips… sorry I meant gp tips. Or are you reading tea leaves?
no on the fact is hes said nothing other than hes honoring contract ice has never said he was home sick people have said it for him but he has never said it but fans think hes coming here even after saying hes honoring the deal
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Blain
I agree with geepee here. Nothing has changed for him personally since when he signed at the Tigers. If he was truly homesick and wanting to be back with family and his misses, he would have knocked on our door November last year. Boats sailed, and our signings for 2023 clearly show we are not expecting to land him.
The things that have changed during that time, is the Tigers coaching set up, and the Warriors entire football operations team. They are reasons to be perhaps unsettled about his decision, but he won't be getting a release because of that.
Noitall
There was an article months ago regarding the rumour of a possible return to the Warriors and I posted a couple of posts from people who claimed to have inside knowledge of it being a real possibility. I’ve been straight up about any of that and never been so arrogant as to post anything like “end of story” as you did earlier as I don’t know, do you? Do you have some inside knowledge to say it’s not happening other than your guess? I couldn’t tell if your post implied he said he’d honour the deal but haven’t seen that anywhere and nobody can give a decent reason of why he wouldn’t just simply state he’s committed, can you? He must love fucking with the media more than Wayne Bennett.
Geepee is the full stop button on your keyboard broken or do you just hate sentences?
I reckon he will be ranked above a few and may get some solid minutes off the bench. I see Siro moving on. I reckon Ben Murdoch-Masila becomes a bench prop or goes out the door. Jazz could go too with Walkers arrival. I reckon this signing was ticked off by Webster.
Five&Last
Yeah I mean that’s all speculation, as of right now they’re signed for next year.
Ben Murdoch-Masila could decide the pay he’s on right now is worth living in NZ away from wife for a year compared to the pay that’s on offer from the Dolphins. Or maybe the wife signs with the Warriors for 2024 when they get a woman’s team back?
I actually don’t think Ford is any better than Siro tbh.
Noitall
Best case scenario I see for the Warriors if there’s any truth to the Papali’i rumours is the tigers getting Sironen who’s old man is tigers royalty and Ben Murdoch-Masila, they’re only contracted to the Warriors for next year so would require renegotiating contracts beyond next year for the tigers if there were to go there as compensation.
Toookey
At this point in time were all guessing the situation, so allow me to paint you the story that I want to believe 🤣
Ice takes unders at the Eels to build a new name for him self and wins Daly M 2nd rower of the year. Currently on 150k and after a great year, lots of interest from other teams.
Ice has barely been gone a year from the Warriors so there's no way were chasing him, no way he's coming 'crawling' back to us so early.
Tigers sign him up on 600k in November, which is quite a gamble at the time as Ice could be a 1 year, 1 trick pony. Even Eels weren't going to risk that much money. 600k can be a life changing amount, so of course 23 year old Paps is ecstatic. Will also be playing for Madge, the coach that saw something in him when he picked Ice for the Kiwis when most coach's wouldn't have.
Come mid 2022, Ice is putting in and looks as good, if not better than last year. Eels decide they want a bit of this. Tigers start looking a bit shakey and talk of Madge leaving is concerning, especially now that Paps is seen as being able to back up that great 2021 and is not only worth that 600k, infact that's probably unders for what he's doing on the field. Rumours start to swirl. To be honest I think he probably would have been happy to stay at Eels - but that was clearly never going to happen by the Tigers, so I think his thoughts were along the lines of 'if I can't be in a good team pushing for the finals every year, then I may as well be in a lower team closer to home/partner, now that I know Warriors would take me back (probably on more money)'.
That's what I think has happened. I don't think he's this love sick puppy who misses his GF and that's his top priority, I think he can see that signing with the Warriors will give him 2 out of 3 things that would be important as a young league player - money, comfort, playing in a good team.
Noitall
To add that Papali’i and Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad were at the club when Webster was assistant coach and McFadden was around and might see something special could happen under them. My hope is that Kiwi players are really going to want to see a premiership head over the Tasman and chat is amongst them to try make it happen.
Noitall
I’ve always noticed you say Ale is more a second rower or lock having watched a bit of him. I remember how Papali’i was used as a prop in his time at the Warriors sometimes, do you see the same trajectory as Papali’i for Ale?
Yeah but Siro has had a crack without setting the world on fire so might be time for a change. Some guys just need a chance and this could be Fords.
Sounds like he breaks the tackle well and scores trys so might be that bit of aggression we need off the bench
Leon Black
Aside from Eddie Blacker are these other people even real?? Panthers NSW Cup fullback, way better prospect than guy we have coming from QLD Cup, winger Suruva is a real prospect and young Luke improving all the time. Chase them Webby please.
Yeah totally agree but the ford signing, given we have so many backrowers, says to me that the there will be some players leaving........through the players choice or the clubs.
Or there is actually a plan to make Niukore a starting centre....which opens things up a bit more.
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