Recruitment 2021 Warriors Recruitment DISCUSSION

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Ever Hopeful

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Wow we signed kosi. Warriors aren't done with propwings

How much of people's apathy to his signing is down to this? Fans are just craving a different type of winger and Kosi is subjected to the hangover of that. I wasn't overly impressed by his first couple of games, but a lot of wingers struggle for defensive positioning when they enter FG. Hopefully they work really hard on it over the off season (with someone competent).

It feels meh because we are looking out for a couple of big name signings, but it is vital that we develop our own youth otherwise we are going nowhere long term.
 
Five&Last

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How much of people's apathy to his signing is down to this? Fans are just craving a different type of winger and Kosi is subjected to the hangover of that. I wasn't overly impressed by his first couple of games, but a lot of wingers struggle for defensive positioning when they enter FG. Hopefully they work really hard on it over the off season (with someone competent).

It feels meh because we are looking out for a couple of big name signings, but it is vital that we develop our own youth otherwise we are going nowhere long term.
I think the problem is that we have lacked finishers. Most teams in the league are opting for larger wingers bordering on prop wing territory. The difference with them is that they actually score tries.
 
Wrighty

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…meanwhile in other off season developments Pre season training has gone to another level of intensity …


Was it Charlie Gubb who ran through a cheap brick wall in a promotional video to aid recruitment ? Some diff
How much of people's apathy to his signing is down to this? Fans are just craving a different type of winger and Kosi is subjected to the hangover of that. I wasn't overly impressed by his first couple of games, but a lot of wingers struggle for defensive positioning when they enter FG. Hopefully they work really hard on it over the off season (with someone competent).

It feels meh because we are looking out for a couple of big name signings, but it is vital that we develop our own youth otherwise we are going nowhere long term.
Who are our warriors junior pathway players in the 30
jazz
Kosi
Shaun Johnson
Otukulo
Vaillea
Berry
Katoa
Ale

8 out of 30
Is that a good percentage relative to the top teams ?
 
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Sup42

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He'll be playing Q Cup unless there's an injury crisis. I like him, a budget Fusitua on minimum wage, massive unit with speed to burn, and most importantly a quick learner. Seeing him break down after a loss spoke volumes about his attitude to me. Give him a year and he could be a weapon on half of Fusitua's contract, smart cap rebalance.

I agree. I really like that he looks like one of the first Warrior backs to realise he is a monster compared to his opponent when his opponent is running at him.

You really have to go back to Francis Meli to see a Winger that knew he was well capable of timing a smash on his opponent and using all his speed and size to terrorize opposition runners.

He is a natural big hitter.

There is a lot of work needed to teach him structure in defence and in attack.

It is not a poor reflection on Kosi that he does not have a clue, he is a bit like bringing in an athlete that has been playing a different sport all of his life and needs a cramming study in the game.

I am very happy they are going to find out what he can do. He looked better as he went along, you can see he could be an absolute beast and he gets back up when he has been smacked.

I am sick of these brown vanilla over grown lumps we have been running who play like midgets in defence and in a one on one in attack.
 
Noitall

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I agree. I really like that he looks like one of the first Warrior backs to realise he is a monster compared to his opponent when his opponent is running at him.

You really have to go back to Francis Meli to see a Winger that knew he was well capable of timing a smash on his opponent and using all his speed and size to terrorize opposition runners.

He is a natural big hitter.

There is a lot of work needed to teach him structure in defence and in attack.

It is not a poor reflection on Kosi that he does not have a clue, he is a bit like bringing in an athlete that has been playing a different sport all of his life and needs a cramming study in the game.

I am very happy they are going to find out what he can do. He looked better as he went along, you can see he could be an absolute beast and he gets back up when he has been smacked.

I am sick of these brown vanilla over grown lumps we have been running who play like midgets in defence and in a one on one in attack.
I reckon he could really kick on with the confidence the club re signing him could give him. Looked to be building a nice combination with Berry for Redcliffe.
 
matiunz

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I’m ok with the Kosi signing, pretty much all our home grown wingers have had shaky starts to their careers. Seems to have a good attitude and won’t be on big money so very little risk.

Adds some much needed size as well especially if Aitken moves to the forwards. Montoya is ok at a hit up, but Walsh, Dallin Watene-Zelezniak, Berry and Vailea aren’t going to kick start a set at this stage very well.
Remember wanting Vatuvei to never play again after his early days, Fusitua started off average with a shit attitude. There are also the misi Taulapapa’s of the world too I guess
 
mrblonde

mrblonde

Was it Charlie Gubb who ran through a cheap brick wall in a promotional video to aid recruitment ? Some diff

Who are our warriors junior pathway players in the 30
jazz
Kosi
Shaun Johnson
Otukulo
Vaillea
Berry
Katoa
Ale

8 out of 30
Is that a good percentage relative to the top teams ?
I'd say it's pretty damn good, really. I don't subscribe to the idea that the Warriors should ignore the local Kiwi boys and just sign Aussies but nor do I subscribe to the idea that the Warriors sign and invest money and time in local juniors no matter what. Roughly 30% of the Top 30 is pretty damn good. However you feel about them as players, Jazz, Shaun have certainly "made it". The issue is the other 6. Can they "make it"? Will being at the Warriors hinder or help that "making it"? Will those 6 be big for the Warriors or some other clubs? That's the I'd-say-million-dollar-but-I'm-sure-8-times-one-million-busts-the-salary-cap question.

Incidentally, why doesn't Harris-Tavita qualify?

Question two for the evening and, yes, alcohol is involved: Why is it that Tohu Harris earns himself another Harris after his name on this website?! Is being a Harris some kind of big thing here?

If money's involved I'm happy to be a Harris, most certainly!
 
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I reckon he could really kick on with the confidence the club re signing him could give him. Looked to be building a nice combination with Berry for Redcliffe.
I agree. I saw real improvement across the season and he has talent. Inexperience was really exposed in the first few games, which will come right with age. He seemed to have the right attitude!

Good value for money depth player with solid potential given more time and development.
 
Wrighty

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I'd say it's pretty damn good, really. I don't subscribe to the idea that the Warriors should ignore the local Kiwi boys and just sign Aussies but nor do I subscribe to the idea that the Warriors sign and invest money and time in local juniors no matter what. Roughly 30% of the Top 30 is pretty damn good. However you feel about them as players, Jazz, Shaun have certainly "made it". The issue is the other 6. Can they "make it"? Will being at the Warriors hinder or help that "making it"? Will those 6 be big for the Warriors or some other clubs? That's the I'd-say-million-dollar-but-I'm-sure-8-times-one-million-busts-the-salary-cap question.

Incidentally, why doesn't Harris-Tavita qualify?

Question two for the evening and, yes, alcohol is involved: Why is it that Tohu Harris earns himself another Harris after his name on this website?! Is being a Harris some kind of big thing here?

If money's involved I'm happy to be a Harris, most certainly!
Good catch
Chanel Harris-Tavita makes 9 and the percentage to 30%
Do you have a feeling we are overly loyal to our junior pathways players and keep them on the books too long ?
or do you think we get the balance right ?
 
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Five&Last

Five&Last

Good catch
Chanel Harris-Tavita makes 9 and the percentage to 30%
Do you have a feeling we are overly loyal to our junior pathways players and keep them on the books too long ?
or do you think we get the balance right ?
Bunty also.

I’d say we have been getting the right mix. Some goood, some bad.

Juniors/full time squad members that have been allowed to leave in last two years: Turner, Perham, Fusitua, Maumalo, Papalii, Lisone, Vagana, Glamuzina, Roache, Ravutaumada, Tyler Slade, Israel Ogden.

Haven’t included juniors that have left and come back then left again i.e. Hiku, Paasi etc
 
mrblonde

mrblonde

Good catch
Chanel Harris-Tavita makes 9 and the percentage to 30%
Do you have a feeling we are overly loyal to our junior pathways players and keep them on the books too long ?
or do you think we get the balance right ?
I'd say in terms of numbers, we're okay. The issue is quality and that we're being loyal to the junior pathways out of necessity rather than choice.

I'll have the wine biscuit if there's no Tim-Tam, but if there is...
 
Toookey

Toookey

Theres been lots of talks about the halves merry go-round currently with Pearce, Brooks and the rest of them.

There’s an article about Corey Norman being looked at for the Knights, as well as Scott Drinkwater, given that he will likely be behind Townsend, Dearden and Hammer at fb.

Depending on the situation with Metcalf, if he doesn’t come here I’d be pretty stoked to get Drinkwater. Has a good kicking and running game, somewhat erratic but jeeze he can carve up at times
 
Vancent

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Theres been lots of talks about the halves merry go-round currently with Pearce, Brooks and the rest of them.

There’s an article about Corey Norman being looked at for the Knights, as well as Scott Drinkwater, given that he will likely be behind Townsend, Dearden and Hammer at fb.

Depending on the situation with Metcalf, if he doesn’t come here I’d be pretty stoked to get Drinkwater. Has a good kicking and running game, somewhat erratic but jeeze he can carve up at times
Good call, has an error or two in him but can put a play on too. I get the feeling we have Metcalf locked already from ‘23, challenge will be early for ‘22.
 
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