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Discussion in 'Warriors Discussion' started by mt.wellington, Sep 27, 2018.
Geez what a question as RTS is mean as but i gotta admit im a HUUUUGGGEEEE Teddy fan
RTS seems to lift the side and has made massive improvements in his defensive game this season.
Tedesco had a great season this year but who wouldn’t in the team the Roosters have acquired, always thought he was massively overrated at the Tigers.
Jury is still out on Turbo, has potential but needs to maintain form over a couple of seasons
I think Tedesco is overrated, I've never seen a game where he's stood out
I reckon teddy is awesome- he did have a slow start to the year tho.
Ponga is awesome but ended with a whimper.
On one hand I think RTS was a bit lucky to win it because there's no way he deserved the 3 points in that last game but on the other hand.... I do think he was the most consistent fullback last year.
Throw in the fact that he's an inspirational captain as well and I wouldn't swap him for anyone.
(Turbo is a freak tho- could end up the best of the lot).
Perhaps try opening your eyes when you watch his next game
Both are x-factor players. Teddy was always classy at the tigers but gone up another level with the players around him at the Roosters. Turbo on the other hand, seems to make an impact in every game in a below par Eagles outfit, making him the more dangerous player.. IMO
the only thing I fought lacking in RTS game last year was running straight lines and in gaps off the hips of Forwards who might get a pass away or just beating players with speed ala Tedesco and even Zelezniak
sometimes I think his step can be a crotch at times when all he needs to do is run hard and straight... I'm hoping that comes more into play this year
My point is that Johnson, Ponga and Cleary looked first grade ready in reserve grade. CTH and (presumably, I’ve never seen him play) AK weren’t being spoken about like that last season.
That'd be awesome to see for sure! He seems to build-on each season to be a more complete player on that "elite" level, so another string to the bow..
Last year he unleashed a new defensive game of "Billy Slater" like proportions. His try saves were outstanding. If you watch some highlights, the looks of disbelief on players faces (and coaches)... priceless!
This is stating the obvious, but the only way we are really going to know if these players are first grade ready is by seeing how they go in first grade. Not every player is talked up from a young age. Few gave Thurston a chance to play first grade at all, most thought he was too small to make it. Harris-Tavita and Keighran have played enough reserve grade to be match conditioned, have spent the entire pre-season knowing they have a shot, lets now see if they are ready.
shit when i came on the recruitment page i thought tedesco and trbojevic were being sold as there were so many comments
RTS all day !!
I wouldn’t take anyone seriously who rates Ben hunt and Corey Norman higher than Cleary and Maloney
100% correct. What I would add to that is that regardless of their talent SJ and Ponga were standouts in poor clubs. Cleary was a standout in a club overloaded with talent in the halves, so much so that Keighran who was a standout in ISP was never likely to be written about because he was in the shade of the others.
I think the pressure of playing in the halves is such a leap between ISP and FG that we will follow Melbourne and share the work around. No problem, it worked for Melbourne, it can work for the Warriors as well.
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I’m sure opposite teams this year will be targeting our new halves probing for any weaknesses as they do relentlessly in this comp. Keighran for my mind, should defend pretty well in these situations.
He's fairly solid for a half and playing mostly at centre last year, should be used to the physical stuff and reading plays defensively which could be a bonus..
It’s the tactical and kicking game I am most worried about with the young halves, especially with the speed of the defences at first grade level.
If Green goes down all i see is pointless kicks giving the opposition field position, and the lack of ability to finish off our sets especially in the opposition red zone.
Hope I’m wrong, but I haven’t seen any comments about the kicking games for our young halves.
It seems as though we still have 3 spots still up for grabs in our 30 man squad.
Does anyone know who we would promote within to make those numbers?
Agreed, coping with the rushing defence and getting good kicks away will only come with practice and more game time unfortunately. There's nothing worse than being on the losing end of "force back" in the NRL.
Lucky they have good mentors in the club with Stacey Jones and Green to work with regards to tactical kicking at practice sesh.
However on-field, I'm sure responsibility will be shared with Isaac Luke kicking from dummy half when Greens not there.. I heard he can kick the odd 40/20 on occasions?
That's because Cappy's master plan was to use him on the left as a third half most of the time. Hopefully the new attacking coach gives him the "license to roam"
I hear a lot of comment on the right and wrongs of our recruitment/ retention eg the way SJ was handled, etc
Comments criticise as if recruitment is black and white. In reality there’s a heap of grey. Luck, timing and salary cap along with players intentions, career pathways and personal goals all are potential issues when negotiating - mostly beyond the clubs control.
With so many factors you need to look at the big picture and with POS and the development players signed up; Corvo upskilling what we have coming through, BS planning what we need long term and Kearney setting a culture, we are setting ourselves up to have a solid SQUAD long term. I believe we are building a core of high performing players within their position so that LONG TERM we are not overly reliant on a single player.
The comp is won over years of building and developing a squad. SJ leaving is disappointing short term but is just a blip in our long term push to be competition heavy weights, that are in with a chance for a title every year.
Lucky we have Adam Blair , he will provide good practice for the halves in opposed sessions surely. His kick pressure is relentless