Recruitment 2019 Warriors Recruitment DISCUSSION

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Paul Kent said as much on NRL 360 last week. Not a direct quote but he said the Warriors struggled to recruit good local talent because NZ does not have the league background that Aussie has. Therefore kids are not immersed from a very young age so do not develop to the same standard as Aussie kids. He seemed saddened by the situation & a bit pissed off at NZRL not being more involved.

He's hit the nail on the head right there
He don't know shite.

In the early 90s, as I have posted so many times, players were going straight from Fox to NSWRL FG and turning out stars, not just ordinary players.

I had been away from Auckland for a while but came back around that time and was speaking about our development to a local club (which was being coached by a future Kiwi coach, and had another as reserve grade coach YES TRUE!!). This guy showed me the training programs for their senior and reserve sides for the Fox. They certainly were impressive and that club later supplied a few star players (e.g. GF players) to Sydney

That is why the NSWRL were so shit scared of Auckland coming into the competition. They saw a Brisbane on steroids.

The standard of the Fox has plummeted since then. The poor management of the Warriors since inception hasn't helped at all e.g. Eric Watson the useless bastard. However Australia has other attractions e.g. better paid jobs, cheaper standard of living.

As for blaming the NZRL, Mr. Kent, why not ask the ARL what they have done to regularly kick the NZRL in the balls. I like listening to Kent but he is a typical navel gazing Sydney critic, as can be expected because that his his readership.
Rant over.
 
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The game has changed since the early 90's. Professionals are bigger stronger and drilled to play structured robotic footy and play the percentages. Jumping from our local footy to the NRL is harder now. Our big opportunity for a premiership was in the 90's when we could bring locals through Fox and stick them in and they could compete, theose days are gone.
 
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The game has changed since the early 90's. Professionals are bigger stronger and drilled to play structured robotic footy and play the percentages. Jumping from our local footy to the NRL is harder now. Our big opportunity for a premiership was in the 90's when we could bring locals through Fox and stick them in and they could compete, theose days are gone.
Excuse me, how does that make sense? Local Fox isn't anything like it used to be. Nothing at all, why?

The Australians have always been robotic, Graham Lowe commented on that when he was coaching the Kiwis before he went to Wigan even. There are other reasons but I don't want to get started on it. Kent wouldn't know shite.
 
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Its sad just how broke NZRL are.
I read a lot of comments on social media how other fans of league that aren't Kiwi, Or are but don't support the kiwis. Call NZRL out for not doing more financially to help the island nations. And use that against us in support of players changing allegiances. Like we don't or haven't done fuck all for them so fuck NZ!? Lol.

They think the NZRL has All Black $ We're as broke as you guys. Chill!!
 
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Excuse me, how does that make sense? Local Fox isn't anything like it used to be. Nothing at all, why?

The Australians have always been robotic, Graham Lowe commented on that when he was coaching the Kiwis before he went to Wigan even. There are other reasons but I don't want to get started on it. Kent wouldn't know shite.
Kents talking about the now. Not travelling back in time like you always like to do. Times have changed. This isn't the 90s. Fox Memorial Premiership team now lose to the Warriors U20s team. Every year. When was the last time someone was selected from the NZ domestic scene to play for the Kiwis? Yep, back in the early 90s...
 
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I know a lot of parents who have sent their kids over to play league in Australia. Two biggest reasons are they start them younger and the level of competition is much higher.
How many of the parents follow the kids? There would be a lot of families where the recruiter comes along and maps out the opportunities for their son. Some instances it might be better for their son to have their family there or it might end up the thing that makes them decide to move as well for their own job opportunities.

It would be interesting to know the official stats on the number of young players lost each year to Australia. Some of the numbers I have heard quoted on Radio Sport (heard 200-500) is quite staggering.
 
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Mike Doreen played for the Kiwis in the early 90's.
Did Tony Tuimavave play for the kiwis,maybe after he played for Warriors anyway
 
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Logan Swann played for NZ from reserve grade. Not quite the domestic comp but still, it's something you wouldn't expect to see anymore.
 
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Kents talking about the now. Not travelling back in time like you always like to do. Times have changed. This isn't the 90s. Fox Memorial Premiership team now lose to the Warriors U20s team. Every year. When was the last time someone was selected from the NZ domestic scene to play for the Kiwis? Yep, back in the early 90s...
My question was why? Kent didn't have the answer, just a dumb observation. I reckon I know some answers, what about you?
 
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Logan Swann played for NZ from reserve grade. Not quite the domestic comp but still, it's something you wouldn't expect to see anymore.
That was when we hardly had any Sydney professionals outside the Warriors. Those that were were stars though. The others in the late 90s were from England. You don't see that now either.

One of the real rock stars from the 80s was Olsen Filipaina. Never on side with his coaches so usually in reserves then used to get selected by Lowe for the Kiwis and run rings around Wally Lewis.
 
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Mike Doreen played for the Kiwis in the early 90's.
Did Tony Tuimavave play for the kiwis,maybe after he played for Warriors anyway
Played 1 test while at the Warriors. Those were the days when just about any Kiwi in the Warriors made the Kiwi side.
 
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It would be interesting to know the official stats on the number of young players lost each year to Australia. Some of the numbers I have heard quoted on Radio Sport (heard 200-500) is quite staggering.
I think those numbers are true. It was in the 100s over 20 years ago. I am not sure but I wonder if the clubs organise jobs for the parents, they sure used to for the WAGS.

Another thing I noticed was the quality of young football players in the Junior All Whites recently. Really athletic and talented, mostly from academies in NZ.

If you are a middle class NZ family with an athletic kid there are so many options now for professional sport e.g. basketball, football even athletics. Compare that with playing in the first fifteen against kids who are years ahead of them in physical development, let alone size.

Then add to that the employment situation. Jobs are easy to get here but the money is shite compared with Australia. Any kid with a job here is going to think twice about getting smashed up on the weekend and losing time off work.

Add all that to those actually going to Australia and the talent pool is really draining, and the Fox is probably the best example, Mr Kent.

Things have really changed, and it is not all the fault of the NZRL.
 
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My question was why? Kent didn't have the answer, just a dumb observation. I reckon I know some answers, what about you?
There is only one right answer why the Fox is rubbish. All the best players are now playing the Australian comp and have done since Tony Kemp...
 
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NRL 360 is a TV programme with the sole purpose of promoting Fox's interests in NRL. I'm not sure what to call what Paul Kent says. I am sure it's not journalism or particularly rational. It's a shame as league deserves a quality show rather than the rubbish on Sky.
I'm really looking forward to the games this weekend. Maybe a new star the Warriors can recruit will emerge.
 
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