General 2018 Centres Thread

Top 2 Centres. Two votes.

  • Solomone Kata

  • Peta Hiku

  • Anthony Gelling

  • Blake Ayshford

  • Gerard Beale

  • Charnze Nicoll-Klokstad


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wrighty

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Ayshford and Beale are supposed to be available in Round 10.

Presuming their availability is correctly reported, then just for arguments sake and the purposes of this thread, let's assume that SK starts both of them in ISP this coming week to blow out some rust and take some hit ups.

Based on the above who do you select for Round 11 and going forward from there at centre?

Discuss

This has been discussed in various threads so I figured maybe a themed thread might help...
 
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Danpatmac

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Our centres have not been a major problem, or even a minor problem as we have an outstanding record in 2018 with Hiku and Katas in those spots

However, they all offer different things:
(ranked best to least best in my opinion)
Hiku - offensive creativity, 2nd phase play and covers entire backline
Kata - fairly solid defence and physical running
Beale - experience, solid defender and good footspeed
Ayshford - good passer, improved defender, covers back row
Gelling - big body, strong runner, covers back row

Fusitu'a is a premier winger in the world, I would not move him unless dire circumstances
CNK is a winger/fulback
 

Von Cettes

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Sep 14, 2013
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Blake Ayshford is not first grade material his 2017 NRL stats were among the worst in the League
At the end of the season most clubs do a review and it was of very little surprise to me that the Warriors invested heavily in this area in the off season we recruited Beale Hiku and Gelling
Ayshford is slow often beaten and offers very little the best part of his game is his draw and pass
He was in reserve grade at West’s and Cronulla that is his best position Super League awaits Blake
The moment Fake is selected in the Warriors side I will be pissed
We have 3 centres Kata Hiku and Beale hopefully among those 3 for the season
 

Sup42

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May 7, 2012
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Kata is the most vulnerable out of the incumbents.

Hiku is safe ish because he is a Kiwi Center that can run the right edge plays.

That leaves Beale and Kata.

Beale has the CV, he is the Kiwi international Center rated ahead of Hiku even.

Beales last game was a test matcfh for NZ so do the maths on that one...he is rated ahead of Hiku as a Rep footy player.

Kata and Ken will battle over the spare wheel.

Beale and Hiku the NZ combo...what else is there....Beale looked awesome for the Kiwis till he broke his leg...two try saving tackles in a test...then snap...hes the best center we have on paper;...so he will play there is no argument.
 
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mt.wellington

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Jun 21, 2012
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Right now its Peta Hiku and Solomone Kata. Until either no longer deserves to play NRL by fucking up at training or game day the positions are theirs to keep.

Peta Hiku gets found out in defence at times but that is something you can always work. The combination he has with not only David Fusitua but also Shaun Johnson is the type of stuff that you either have or you don't. No amount of work is going to make that combination stick.

With all that being said I fully expect Gerard Beale to feature in the team very soon...
 

mt.wellington

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Jun 21, 2012
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Kata is the most vulnerable out of the incumbents.

Hiku is safe ish because he is a Kiwi Center that can run the right edge plays.

That leaves Beale and Kata.

Beale has the CV, he is the Kiwi international Center rated ahead of Hiku even.

Beales last game was a test matcfh for NZ so do the maths on that one...he is rated ahead of Hiku as a Rep footy player.

Kata and Ken will battle over the spare wheel.

Beale and Hiku the NZ combo...what else is there....Beale looked awesome for the Kiwis till he broke his leg...two try saving tackles in a test...then snap...hes the best center we have on paper;
Lets not forget Solomone Kata has played 5 games at centre for the Kiwis. Both Gerard Beale and Peta Hiku have played more though.

We get 2014 Hiku back he walks into the team ahead of Beale IMO...
 

Danpatmac

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Right now its Peta Hiku and Solomone Kata. Until either no longer deserves to play NRL by fucking up at training or game day the positions are theirs to keep.

Peta Hiku gets found out in defence at times but that is something you can always work. The combination he has with not only David Fusitua but also Shaun Johnson is the type of stuff that you either have or you don't. No amount of work is going to make that combination stick.

With all that being said I fully expect Gerard Beale to feature in the team very soon...

will Kearney carry a utility back on the bench along with a hooking option or are we talking about one of the current backline missing out to slot beale in?
 
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Sup42

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Lets not forget Solomone Kata has played 5 games at centre for the Kiwis. Both Gerard Beale and Peta Hiku have played more though.

We get 2014 Hiku back he walks into the team ahead of Beale IMO...
Yeah I didnt forget about Sol.

Dean Whare walks in ahead of all of them and so on.

But Beale has the Rep footy Mana of the three of them and a coach like SK will pay that some respect till Beale flops.

Personally....I have been converted this weekend to Sol holding his spot...but I cannot see Kearney going back on the promises he would have made to Beale as a veteran old boy of Kearneys when they talked about a change of clubs.

SK would have been rapt with those early minutes of Beales for NZ in the WC...plus he did say he was really happy with the way Beale was a good influence and very positive and liked since he joined the team.

Its a close one but yeah I cant see SK mucking his senior player around,



Beale off the bench one hundred percent guaranteed and from there he is too experienced not to pinch a spot...he plays like a center.
 
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Sup42

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I reckon he gets a round in ISP next week to blow out the cobwebs then bench like you say much in the same way Konrad Hurrell was eased back in after coming back to 2014 preseason overweight...
He would be our most expensive center right now ? highest paid ?
 

Sammyw11

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Mar 8, 2016
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ayshford is not up to first grade standards, there is a reason he ends up in reserve grade everywhere he goes. hes horrible. i would have all of the above mentioned names ahead of him in the pecking order
 

Defence

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May 9, 2012
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Always liked Beale but he's coming back from a serious injury- not likely to see him at his best this year.
Hiku is an enigma- he's missed a lot of tackles and bombed a few tries but he does bring that bit of X factor. He's an unlikely looking athlete but is a natural footballer which is rare in this day and age.
Ayshford and gelling are a fair way behind but do have the added bonus of covering the back row.
Kata had a shocker last year but looks a bit trimmer this year and has regained a bit of speed and the confidence that comes with that. He's number one in my book.
 

RizNz

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Apr 19, 2018
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Christchurch
Gerard Beale looked to be the best player on the park in that opening world cup game vs Samoa before he was injured. I think he will eventually replace Kata on the left and bring the best out of Ken.
It would be pretty tough on Kata to miss out as he has been going pretty well when available. My guess is Beale gets a week in reserve grade this week.
 

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