Politics 🗳️ NZ Politics

[MrFrankWhite]

It is not compulsory in NZ to join a union. In fact, it is illegal for an employer to pressure you to join one.

And yet the issues with NZ corrections remain.

I’m kind of incredulous you honestly believe that there’s zero crime influence in any NZ unions.

 

[Brightman]

How about ebola? You keen to waive your vaccination for that one?

There is no vaccine for Ebola bundibugyo strain..

 

[Brightman]

I’m not following you there, sorry

I was being facetious and the inference was once māori were subjugated by the Crown the whites didn't need to work as hard..

 

[Brightman]

And yet the issues with NZ corrections remain.

I’m kind of incredulous you honestly believe that there’s zero crime influence in any NZ unions.

Which union/gang did the corrections officers belong too..

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Which union/gang did the corrections officers belong too..

The Union For Corrections Officers | Corrections Association of NZ

CANZ is the union for corrections officers working inside the wire. As an industry specific and specialised union, we stand ready to support our members with any issue.

canzunion.co.nz

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Union says Auckland prison arrests 'largest operation' of its kind

Nine staff from the Mt Eden Corrections Facility had been taken into custody on Wednesday, while Serco said five reintegration officers were arrested at the Kohuora Auckland South Corrections Facility.

www.1news.co.nz

 

[MrFrankWhite]

Union says attempts to coerce prison staff 'extremely concerning'

It comes after 14 Corrections staff were arrested.

www.rnz.co.nz

 

[MaybeTop8]

There is no vaccine for Ebola..

Aside from a quick google, which I'll post below saying there's at least two, let me rephrase to something a bit more rigid and hopefully clear for you: "A vaccine exists for Ebola. If you were in a situation where you could be exposed to it would you refuse the vaccination based on the beliefs and sentiment you've expressed so far in your comments?"

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

Well, you would be covered by the collective agreements in place, but that is not the same as compulsory union membership. And everyone in NZ has the right to negotiate an individual employment agreement.

It’s the mindset that’s objectionable (the believe everyone should be in it) even if you can now opt out.

 

[BabylonPink]

The bigger question is if unions are relevant in 2026? Unions are very much an old fashion divisive us and them style of employment relationship instead of the more collaborative relationship we get now a days.

I would argue society is naturally becoming more collaborative with shorter and more flexible hours as individualism expands (more politically right). The unions just take credit for a natural progression.

8 hour days/ 40 hour weeks and 2 days off for the weekend are outdated when people work a lot more flexible days and hours. More people would work part time than 40 hours now, wouldn’t they?

I agree with monopoly govt employee situations using collective pay (rather than negotiating with every single employee) but even then it should be strictly around pay and conditions not with unions getting out of their lane we see now.

I imagine your super collaborative with your 4 teenage employees at your lazer tag fuck fest.
You are the biggest up your ass wanker ever mate.

 

[BabylonPink]

Hey Frank how much does it cost US regular tax payers to outfit equip and fund a state sanctioned murderer I.e you

 

[Brightman]

This behaviour in prisons has been going on for a while, a lot of things aren't talked about..

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

I imagine your super collaborative with your 4 teenage employees at your lazer tag fuck fest.
You are the biggest up your ass wanker ever mate.

Your imagination is admirable. I like it how you can take snippets of information, form a big picture in your head and be so convinced you get all worked up about someone while being so thoroughly wrong…

But keep being you, your very entertaining

Shall I dream up a picture about you based on what I know… You work at the pink pony club? Probably as accurate about you as you are of me

 

[Brightman]

Aside from a quick google, which I'll post below saying there's at least two, let me rephrase to something a bit more rigid and hopefully clear for you: "A vaccine exists for Ebola. If you were in a situation where you could be exposed to it would you refuse the vaccination based on the beliefs and sentiment you've expressed so far in your comments?"

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No I wouldn't. Nor would it require a WHO take-over to get an outbreak of ebola under control..

 

[Brightman]

I imagine your super collaborative with your 4 teenage employees at your lazer tag fuck fest.
You are the biggest up your ass wanker ever mate.

how old are you..

 

[wizard of Tauranga]

how old are you..

A reminder to not drink and post everyone!

(Hopefully he’s on something or I actually feel sorry for him!)

 

[MaybeTop8]

No I wouldn't. Nor would it require a WHO take-over to get an outbreak of ebola under control..

Fair enough, consistent with your convictions. But you put everyone you come into contact with at risk. Your own personal convictions will cost others their lives.

You have to live with that.

And if others around you are being put in harm's way, don't you think that's selfish?

Unless of course you don't believe that ebola, or covid for example are real.

 

[defensivebomb]

It’s impossible for a govt to borrow for a tax cut

They borrow to spend