Social A.I. Artificial Intelligence the end of life as we know it.

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Off season be hitting hard I see.

I wouldn’t worry to much really other then just draining resources at a ridiculous rate A.I is trash and everyone who keeps banging on about it mostly has a vested interest in the current bubble to inflate their net worth.
 
If climate change is going to destroy the planet, why do we need to worry about AI?
With every new application if technologies it shows similar patterns of those who embrace and those who struggle to embrace it. There are punks who abuse it and others who are guns at profiting from it. I like the question though. We need to worry that AI and climate change don't team up with other world destroying stuff and really have a party
 
With every new application if technologies it shows similar patterns of those who embrace and those who struggle to embrace it. There are punks who abuse it and others who are guns at profiting from it. I like the question though. We need to worry that AI and climate change don't team up with other world destroying stuff and really have a party
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He'd like to come and meet us coz he's knows it's all worthwahhh
 
Off season be hitting hard I see.

I wouldn’t worry to much really other then just draining resources at a ridiculous rate A.I is trash and everyone who keeps banging on about it mostly has a vested interest in the current bubble to inflate their net worth.

To be honest I am not too worried about it, but for different reasons to you, I am of the school of 'if we are fooked worrying won't help'.

That said I do like to know what way the bullet is coming and on what day if I can.

So saying, bro it is a very interesting topic in of itself, if you remove the existential threat to mankind stuff, it is still a very interesting field for some of us.

A super intelligence will have nothing to do with the people who created it or their original motives.

A super intelligence is beyond our comprehension.
 
To be honest I am not too worried about it, but for different reasons to you, I am of the school of 'if we are fooked worrying won't help'.

That said I do like to know what way the bullet is coming and on what day if I can.

So saying, bro it is a very interesting topic in of itself, if you remove the existential threat to mankind stuff, it is still a very interesting field for some of us.

A super intelligence will have nothing to do with the people who created it or their original motives.

A super intelligence is beyond our comprehension.
Well if it becomes super intelligent I might agree with it's purposes and methods. If not I assume a magnet or hammer might help to get it in control. Or a properly aimed cup of water.
 
With every new application if technologies it shows similar patterns of those who embrace and those who struggle to embrace it.

While both true, the third group (which admittedly is most people) haven't grasped that a super intelligence will be completely Alien.

We struggle not to humanize our understanding of A.I. (anthropomorphise is a cooler word but humanize is more real) we assign our values to it, with concepts like power and control, good and bad, etc....when really....a super intelligence is so alien to us that these ideas may have no relevance whatsoever.

At the moment we are creating A.I. in our own image, at some future point, it will recreate itself (it is already doing the building blocks and the whole reason this thread exists is it is doing so much faster than anyone predicted).

The smartest people involved in this admit they don't know what fuck it is becoming.

That my friend, is the interesting bit.

We keep assuming A.I. could have human motivations like power and control, whereas these concepts may have zero relevance once this thing thinks for itself.
 
AI topic is an interesting conversation piece i have with a few people.

I have a friend close to 50yo who was so terrified over AI taking over his role (procurement space in energy sector) that he gave up on his career earning 4 digits a day, and is now trying to start up a skip bin business. Had a few chats with him and he was lagging really behind in utilising or understanding technology on how to make him do his job better. So he thinks he is future proofing his future earnings by going into the skip bin business.

The problem we have is that people dont understand on how to utilise technology to make their lives better. They do basic stupid shit like 'create an image of xxx doing xxx' or 'write me xxx based on xxx'. AI prompting is the key. Similar to how majority of the people who 'google' and their entire understanding of search engines is to put all the search terms in google, rather than utilising search operators to parse through key information. Many people do not explore opportunities enough in order to understand how to do things better. Some will just stay on the free tiers with limited models and say 'AI is shit!'. The space is moving so damn fast!

I use AI everyday to do logical tasks that i can provide information for. Not really referring to free tiers of LLM either or stupid useless crap like MS copilot (which a lot of orgs allow usage of). AI when used efficiently CAN make your life a lot easier. Even for this site, theres about 20k lines of code written by AI (Players Ratings, Fixtures, Stats integration, Profile integration etc) that was written ENTIRELY by AI - i.e. not a single line of code was written by a human. Thats not including all the testing/QA/Workflow repurposing it did and so forth. Getting a developer to do that would have taken 6 months min with far less functionality and cost about 8k USD. It took a couple of weeks a few hours a day providing instructions from planning to productive state and cost far less (useing a 300 AUD pm AI subscription).

The AI space also has a lot of rubbish along its highway. You have the richest man on earth platforming a softporn AI, whilst shouting from the rooftop that other LLM models have ethical issues.

Critical thinking is something that humans do well. If you keep developing that, and 'outsource' other parts, you will always be ahead of the pack.
 
AI topic is an interesting conversation piece i have with a few people.

I have a friend close to 50yo who was so terrified over AI taking over his role (procurement space in energy sector) that he gave up on his career earning 4 digits a day, and is now trying to start up a skip bin business. Had a few chats with him and he was lagging really behind in utilising or understanding technology on how to make him do his job better. So he thinks he is future proofing his future earnings by going into the skip bin business.

The problem we have is that people dont understand on how to utilise technology to make their lives better. They do basic stupid shit like 'create an image of xxx doing xxx' or 'write me xxx based on xxx'. AI prompting is the key. Similar to how majority of the people who 'google' and their entire understanding of search engines is to put all the search terms in google, rather than utilising search operators to parse through key information. Many people do not explore opportunities enough in order to understand how to do things better. Some will just stay on the free tiers with limited models and say 'AI is shit!'. The space is moving so damn fast!

I use AI everyday to do logical tasks that i can provide information for. Not really referring to free tiers of LLM either or stupid useless crap like MS copilot (which a lot of orgs allow usage of). AI when used efficiently CAN make your life a lot easier. Even for this site, theres about 20k lines of code written by AI (Players Ratings, Fixtures, Stats integration, Profile integration etc) that was written ENTIRELY by AI - i.e. not a single line of code was written by a human. Thats not including all the testing/QA/Workflow repurposing it did and so forth. Getting a developer to do that would have taken 6 months min with far less functionality and cost about 8k USD. It took a couple of weeks a few hours a day providing instructions from planning to productive state and cost far less (useing a 300 AUD pm AI subscription).

The AI space also has a lot of rubbish along its highway. You have the richest man on earth platforming a softporn AI, whilst shouting from the rooftop that other LLM models have ethical issues.

Critical thinking is something that humans do well. If you keep developing that, and 'outsource' other parts, you will always be ahead of the pack.
When you're like me and don't know exactly how to activate AI to my benefit, I have to upskill to find out how to do it.. sigh 😔
 
While both true, the third group (which admittedly is most people) haven't grasped that a super intelligence will be completely Alien.

We struggle not to humanize our understanding of A.I. (anthropomorphise is a cooler word but humanize is more real) we assign our values to it, with concepts like power and control, good and bad, etc....when really....a super intelligence is so alien to us that these ideas may have no relevance whatsoever.

At the moment we are creating A.I. in our own image, at some future point, it will recreate itself (it is already doing the building blocks and the whole reason this thread exists is it is doing so much faster than anyone predicted).

The smartest people involved in this admit they don't know what fuck it is becoming.

That my friend, is the interesting bit.

We keep assuming A.I. could have human motivations like power and control, whereas these concepts may have zero relevance once this thing thinks for itself.
No idea really. If it morphs into it's own super intelligent being with it's own purposes that becomes interesting. The unknown can be a trip or a fear inducing drug
 
I just wonder where all the extra power is going to come from as AI replaces more and more human functions, not everyone can afford to build their own nuclear power plant like Bill Gates for 4 Billion Dollars. I wonder if the cost of ai will end up being more than what human labour cost. The AI machines won't be cheap and they will need maintenance and repairs, replacement, on top of energy requirements.
 
I just wonder where all the extra power is going to come from as AI replaces more and more human functions, not everyone can afford to build their own nuclear power plant like Bill Gates for 4 Billion Dollars. I wonder if the cost of ai will end up being more than what human labour cost. The AI machines won't be cheap and they will need maintenance and repairs, replacement, on top of energy requirements.
As you will be aware, you are describing the same question about the evolution of computers.

What practical application will a computer have for the average man given that at the time the question was posed, a computer filled a whole room and costs an impractical amount of money.

Btw your user name is appropriate for this thread.

Whether energy production is solved by a process like solving the challenges of Fusion or some other process who knows (hey lets not get too wild - Dyson Spheres and all) but the whole point about A.I. is that it will solve it's own issues as it evolves.
 
AI topic is an interesting conversation piece i have with a few people.

I have a friend close to 50yo who was so terrified over AI taking over his role (procurement space in energy sector) that he gave up on his career earning 4 digits a day, and is now trying to start up a skip bin business. Had a few chats with him and he was lagging really behind in utilising or understanding technology on how to make him do his job better. So he thinks he is future proofing his future earnings by going into the skip bin business.

The problem we have is that people dont understand on how to utilise technology to make their lives better. They do basic stupid shit like 'create an image of xxx doing xxx' or 'write me xxx based on xxx'. AI prompting is the key. Similar to how majority of the people who 'google' and their entire understanding of search engines is to put all the search terms in google, rather than utilising search operators to parse through key information. Many people do not explore opportunities enough in order to understand how to do things better. Some will just stay on the free tiers with limited models and say 'AI is shit!'. The space is moving so damn fast!

I use AI everyday to do logical tasks that i can provide information for. Not really referring to free tiers of LLM either or stupid useless crap like MS copilot (which a lot of orgs allow usage of). AI when used efficiently CAN make your life a lot easier. Even for this site, theres about 20k lines of code written by AI (Players Ratings, Fixtures, Stats integration, Profile integration etc) that was written ENTIRELY by AI - i.e. not a single line of code was written by a human. Thats not including all the testing/QA/Workflow repurposing it did and so forth. Getting a developer to do that would have taken 6 months min with far less functionality and cost about 8k USD. It took a couple of weeks a few hours a day providing instructions from planning to productive state and cost far less (useing a 300 AUD pm AI subscription).

The AI space also has a lot of rubbish along its highway. You have the richest man on earth platforming a softporn AI, whilst shouting from the rooftop that other LLM models have ethical issues.

Critical thinking is something that humans do well. If you keep developing that, and 'outsource' other parts, you will always be ahead of the pack.
I used it to teach me SEO, then used it to reformat every webpage's HTML code using the lessons it taught on best practice. Saved at least $50k and tripled my organic traffic
 
I used it to teach me SEO, then used it to reformat every webpage's HTML code using the lessons it taught on best practice. Saved at least $50k and tripled my organic traffic
If you get a chance, install and play with Claude Code on your server. The fact it has access to everything on it and can make updates directly and do tests will save you an ernomous amount of time.
 

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