International Pacific Championship

I think the Kiwis really need to win the World Cup to generate some buzz over the team again. Winning is the best promoter. You'd think smashing the Aussies 30 - 0 a couple years ago would've done something to bring fans in, but it didn't seem to do much.

I'm not a Kiwis fan, but if I was, I'd be so buzzed about this squad. It looks special.
I think a lot of Kiwi league fans are still in a mode of "Teams only beat the Kangaroos when they suck/don't care!" As a side issue, but I think a fair number of Warriors fans are still in that mode. Not saying there aren't games when the Kangaroos are off, but it's the fan expectation that can be the only possible reason why the Kiwis win.

Bought in by things like: I remember in 1991 when we beat the Kangaroos in Game 1 of a Test Series, there was an interview with a Kiwi who was part of the ARL (I think it was Matthew Ridge, not sure now) who said he knew the Kiwis would win because he saw the Kangaroo boys out on the piss every night. Sure enough, we won Game 1, suddenly the Kangaroos began to take things a bit more seriously and we got our heads handed to us in Games 2 and 3.
 

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Wahs fans does not equal kiwis though. I'd say 95% of the tongan fans i talked to are warriors fans. I think the "wahs" movement has 100% translated to a rise in international league. It's just sprinkled over all of the pasfic islands outside of aus.
BS the Tongan games were packing out well before the Wah's movement even came into existence in 2023.

Can pretty much trace it back to when Jason Taumololo and Andrew Fifita both decided to put heritage first. Since then every Tongan Rugby League game is seen as an oppertunity for them to celebrate themselves as a people, hence why they get out en masse.

Culminated in that famous sea of red 2022 sold out Mount Smart where Tonga beat the Kiwi's and in a lot of pundits minds one of the best sporting crowds across any code in NZ history.....this was before the term "Wah's" was even known.
 
Poor advertising as well. I barely saw any advertising, why would someone who is a bandwagoner see or even care.
They used the same socials team as the Warriors.

It's not really a marketing issue when so many Tongan and Samoan fans buy tickets.
It's more a disconnect with he Kiwis brand and the general public.
The Kangaroo's barely sell in Australia too - how is that solved...
 
They used the same socials team as the Warriors.

It's not really a marketing issue when so many Tongan and Samoan fans buy tickets.
It's more a disconnect with he Kiwis brand and the general public.
The Kangaroo's barely sell in Australia too - how is that solved...
That's exactly my point. If half or more than that are PI fans, then that's a poor way of advertising.

Imagine a person who doesn't know League too well or is a disillusioned warriors fan. They go to that game, and see THAT atmosphere!?!?
 
McGregor as captain is baffling. Offers nothing in attack, zero spark, and her defence is hit-and-miss. Hales has been living off reputation too — Albert-Jones brings far more energy and intent. The whole attack looks one-paced and predictable with these passengers out there.
Sad to say it, but Raecene has got slow.
Bulked up to much.
Never realised Tyler King was 18th man.
She would of made a difference.
 
I feel for the players and their families eh. They will be very worried for their mate. No closure the way things ended after a big loss and exiting the tournament, quite emotionally distressing for the Tongan playing group.

Hopefully, the senior players take a stance internally and demand answers (probably won't because of the chance you get overlooked on the next selection cycle).

But this is an example of where player power is important, when no one else is looking out for you, this is when players voices should be heard.

I keep thinking about Shaun Johnson's reaction in the SKY build up to the sickening scenes of the warm up knock out - SJ say's what we all are thinking "surely he cannot play after that".

As someone else pointed out, Bellamy's voice is likely to be powerful in the background in all of this. It shits me that you need to rely on that type of dynamic (Katoa is a super star from a Super club) one wonders if the noise would be as loud for someone like Havili for example....would a relative nobody in the NRL pop culture garner as much concern and advocacy as a high profile super star? [rhetorical].

Anyway, I like everyone else was wondering how Katoa passed the HIA after the warm up TKO (it really was a technical knock out in boxing parlance).

It never occurred to me that they passed Katoa by not testing him.

The whole world can see he was Category one under the NRL rules (failing to protect himself as he falls clause in "CAT One immediate 11 day stand down" criteria met).

If ever there were a moment for the RL players association to prove their worth this is it.

I'd bet a fair sum that Katoa pushed for himself to start the game after the practice head injury, so I dont think the players can "stand up" if that was the case.

Regardless, the team at a bare minimum should have pulled him after the first HIA in game. How could the medical staff think it was OK to put him back out there after 2 head injuries that quick?
 
From SEN

“Storm confirm Katoa suffered “ seizure activity” and has undergone surgery following triple head knock”

So he has been fighting for his life.

This did not happen out of the blue. There was a chain of events with the three injuries and then what we could see as far as how they managed him at the ground.

The tears I saw on the side line were the first big alarm (affective instability-brain injury- crying spontaneously as emotional expression dysfunctions) it starts with a guy showing bad signs, but they leave him sitting in a chair.

Then it progresses rapidly to starting to lose coordination (the description of needing players around him to help support him/in other words he couldn't sit on a chair still anymore).

From there he ends up probably unconscious on the ground after collapsing.

At that point the medics are registering that he is potentially fighting for his life, they give up on their sideline monitoring and their protocols, and their guess work....see a guy on the ground and call and ambulance.

From there to hospital at some point he is fitting, meaning that likely his brain is swelling.

We get told via the storm that he had surgery (usually to relieve pressure by removing a chunk of skull and potentially placing monitors in the skull, or they had to remove bleeding, or they had to repair the cheek fracture, or any combination of the three).

Hopefully that was a post by him on his socials and not family on his behalf. I did not like that pic of his arm, the dressings for likely failed attempts to get a venous line tell a nasty story.
 
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So he has been fighting for his life.

This did not happen out of the blue. There was a chain of events with the three injuries and then what we could see as far as how they managed him at the ground.

The tears I saw on the side line were the first big alarm (affective instability-brain injury- crying spontaneously as emotional expression dysfunctions) it starts with a guy showing bad signs, but they leave him sitting in a chair.

Then it progresses rapidly to starting to lose coordination (the description of needing players around him to help support him/in other words he couldn't sit on a chair still anymore).

From there he ends up probably unconscious on the ground after collapsing.

At that point the medics are registering that he is potentially fighting for his life, they give up on their sideline monitoring and their protocols, and their guess work....see a comatose guy on the ground and call and ambulance.

From there to hospital at some point he is fitting, meaning that likely his brain is swelling.

We get told via the storm that he had surgery (usually to relieve pressure by removing a chunk of skull and potentially placing monitors in the skull, or they had to remove bleeding, or they had to repair the cheek fracture, or any combination of the three).

Hopefully that was a post by him on his socials and not family on his behalf. I did not like that pic of his arm, the dressings for likely failed attempts to get a venous line tell a nasty story.
You could see him mouthing the words or something to the extent of I feel fucked not long before the seizure activity on the sideline. He also has that scar around his chin area from whatever has caused that in the past? Really feel for him how he’s been let down and his family in Tonga must be beside themselves with worry
 
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