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As someone that absolutely hates Trump I have to give him credit if he helped in anyway to get the israel Palestine ceasefire peace deal.
I do think Israel was under intense pressure as the majority of the planet was not on their side.
Mmmm. Not sure I'd agree with that (not that that matters :) ) for some of the following reasons in no particular order
1. Palestine has been smashed. Utterly. Ground to dust. Palestinians too.
2. This has been going on for at least two years in the most recent episode. Historically obviously decades
3. The Americans, under whichever government, but particularly the last two years, could have forced Israel to stop. At any time. They didn't.
4. I haven't searched out detail on the peace deal, but I also haven't seen a lot of detail promoted. So what's actually in it? I'm skeptical there's anything other than "Israel wins everything. Trump gets what he wants. The powers backing Trump get what they want. Palestine will cease to exist ultimately, as Israel will continue it's persecution. The Palestinian land will be completely colonised and stolen"
5. This whole thing smells of a fait accompli
6. Tony Blair is a piece of kaka
 
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Mmmm. Not sure I'd agree with that (not that that matters :) ) for some of the following reasons in no particular order
1. Palestine has been smashed. Utterly. Ground to dust. Palestinians too.
2. This has been going on for at least two years in the most recent episode. Historically obviously decades
3. The Americans, under whichever government, but particularly the last two years, could have forced Israel to stop. At any time. They didn't.
4. I haven't searched out detail on the peace deal, but I also haven't seen a lot of detail promoted. So what's actually in it? I'm skeptical there's anything but "Israel wins everything. Trump gets what he wants. The powers backing Trump get what they want. Palestine will cease to exist ultimately, as Israel will continue it's persecution. The Palestinian land will be completely colonised and stolen"
5. This whole thing smells of a fait accompli
6. Tony Blair is a piece of kaka
https://www.stuff.co.nz/world-news/360850047/and-after-gaza-after-2-years-war

The place has been absolutely levelled. Somehow Dick Cheney’s halliburton company going in to rebuild Iraq feels like there could be some similarities? I don’t think this is going to be in the Palestinians best interests
 
If you really care about the people who have suffered in the Middle East surely you have to be thankful for Trump's intervention, and negotiating skills to broker a peace arrangement. For the sake of the suffering children and people of Gaza, Israel and the other parts of the world I am thankful.
 
https://www.stuff.co.nz/world-news/360850047/and-after-gaza-after-2-years-war

The place has been absolutely levelled. Somehow Dick Cheney’s halliburton company going in to rebuild Iraq feels like there could be some similarities? I don’t think this is going to be in the Palestinians best interests
Absolutely not Noitall. This mob in power, the ones on the right, and here as well, have been telling us from day one what they're going to do. The denial is solely on the side of all of us. When Trump said wouldn't it be wonderful to turn Gaza into a seaside resort, he meant it.

Everything he's said, and done, is telling us the truth of who he is. Who the powers are that are backing him.

Who the fascist right are.

Ultimately who the right become.

We'll see similar stuff happening in New Zealand. We already are if there's care taken to look and understand.

They're not even hiding in plain sight now. Not even pretending.
 
If you really care about the people who have suffered in the Middle East surely you have to be thankful for Trump's intervention, and negotiating skills to broker a peace arrangement. For the sake of the suffering children and people of Gaza, Israel and the other parts of the world I am thankful.
I respect your thinking Boston Boy, see my previous thoughts on Trump's input.
 
I personally doubt we'll see sustained peace in the middle east in my remaining 40-60 years on this earth.
If Trump's input helps negotiate peace, even for a short period, then props to him. His most recent efforts weren't considered in the 2025 Nobel Peace Prize window however
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